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Logic and Midi Keyboard question

Narcosia
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Posted : May 26, 2003 10:58
Anyung haseo (as they say here).

So, I'm using an Evolution MK-249C midi controller keyboard with Logic Audio Platinum 5.3 and everything is working pretty shweet exceeeeeept.....

I can control all the knobs in all of logics soft synths and FX plug-ins but with one small restriction. Say if I only have an ES2 (or any soft synth) running on an Audio Instrument channel, I have full midi control over it. But when I insert an FX (bitcrusher for example) then my midi controller keyboard contols the FX and not the ES2 anymore. Then if I insert another FX after that one then it gets the midi control.

So.... how do I tell logic to send the midi cc's to the synth as opposed to one of the insert FX. Or, to send the midi cc's to one of the insert FX in the chain as opposed to the one below it? You catch my drift.

I really hope someone here has come across this before and can offer me some advice. Thanks.

Awaiting your replies,

joey jo jo
aykondour


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Posted : May 26, 2003 12:53
Hello! Well i'm not sure if i really understund
your problem.
But the controler allways control the audioinst channel? That's right?
And do you open a diferent channel for each plug_in? One for ES2 and (ex) other for FX.
Please reply if i'm right?           Electric foundation navigator
Trip-
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Posted : May 26, 2003 18:14
An insert effect can take over some cc that was previously used by the synth. What u need is an enviroment set (as allways) if u really suffer from this prob ...

I'll paste an explanation of how to control automation controls with MIDI external controls - I hope this might help:

Quote:

External MIDI Control using the Transformer object (Logic Platinum, Logic Gold only)
It is now possible to integrate external MIDI controller (Modulation Wheel etc.) into Logic’s automation system and record external MIDI information as Track Automation data.

This can be done with the Transformer environment object and a new mode in the Transformer window: ”Track Automation Splitter (true -> top cable)”. If the condition matches, incoming events will be sent to the top cable of the Transformer. All remaining MIDI events are passed to the cables below the top cable.

Making use of this facility automation data is passed to the object connected to the top cable of the transformer.

With the appropriate “Operation” field settings incoming MIDI data is transformed into Fader event data allowing the automation of any possible parameter of the connected mixer object. Exception: Channel volume and channel pan uses Control events.

You will need one Transformer object for each mixer object you wish to address and automate.

Example: Control and automate the ESP filter cutoff using an external modulation wheel (CC#1)

Minimal environment setup: In the Logic Environment create a Transformer object with “New > Transformer”. Connect the "Physical Input" with the Transformer object. Connect the top output cable of the transformer to an instrument channel object with the ESP-Synthesizer inserted in the instrument slot. Connect the second output of the Transformer to the "Recording & Throu(gh)" object (sequencer input). Open the transformer parameter box by double clicking the transformer object. In the flip menu select ”Track Automation Splitter” as the transformer mode. As the input condition set: | Status: Control | Cha: All | -1-: 1 |. As the output operation set the event type to: | Status: Fader | Cha: 2 | -1-: 7 |.

In this setup the modulation wheel will control the ESP filter cutoff of the respective instrument. Modulation Wheel movements can be automated using the usual automation modes (read, write, touch, latch).



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aykondour


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Posted : May 26, 2003 18:30
"I hope this might help:try it."
You bet! I was a great help!
thankz           Electric foundation navigator
aykondour


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Posted : May 26, 2003 18:32
"I hope this might help:try it."
You bet! It was a great help!
thankz           Electric foundation navigator
aykondour


Started Topics :  9
Posts :  79
Posted : May 26, 2003 18:33
"I hope this might help:try it."
You bet! It was a great help!
thankz           Electric foundation navigator
aykondour


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Posts :  79
Posted : May 26, 2003 19:18
"I hope this might help:try it."
You bet! I was a great help!
thankz Electric foundation navigator
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