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LOCKAL DJS DONT GET PAYED!!!

xrust
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Posted : Mar 26, 2008 14:58
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On 2008-03-26 14:44, AbsolutZero wrote:
also for those that say that all those happend only here in Greece try to search good the trance forums and you'll see many promoters that they never pay artists and you talking about locals?
If think that you can make money from trance forget it.
Try to find a work and do the dj for hobby.





i dont think that anyone of us is trying to make money from djing man.it is more a matter of respect.there are also other aspects of this matter,like fre passsess or drinks but i wont mention to those(yet).
also i would like to say that this is not personal,and i am talking about all the promoters.i really dont have personal problems with anyone,neither i have problem to play for free at a private party or anything,but when money are involved,then what was dealed must be done.SO SIMPLE!           Signature:



AbsolutZero(D.V.M.)
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Posted : Mar 26, 2008 15:13
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On 2008-03-26 14:58, xrust wrote:
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On 2008-03-26 14:44, AbsolutZero wrote:
also for those that say that all those happend only here in Greece try to search good the trance forums and you'll see many promoters that they never pay artists and you talking about locals?
If think that you can make money from trance forget it.
Try to find a work and do the dj for hobby.





i dont think that anyone of us is trying to make money from djing man.it is more a matter of respect.there are also other aspects of this matter,like fre passsess or drinks but i wont mention to those(yet).
also i would like to say that this is not personal,and i am talking about all the promoters.i really dont have personal problems with anyone,neither i have problem to play for free at a private party or anything,but when money are involved,then what was dealed must be done.SO SIMPLE!



Sure mate..i speak general not for you or Mario,the problem is that we are responsible for this.
If you have react the first time that you didn't get payed or you must pay your beer because many promoters never buy you a drink then i think the problem started from us.
As i remember i don't know a promoter to make parties for us or the music.
Is all about money so they make everything that they can to make more.
pffff
pws me pleksate stin kouventa...mounia
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PartyBitch


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Posted : Mar 26, 2008 15:20
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As i remember i don't know a promoter to make parties for us or the music.



I know some promos that made parties for us AND music. But what was the "price"?? Other promos treating selfish and arrogant than supporting good efforts. This situation sucks... really. Time for changeeeeee, revolution is coming, wake up ppl!
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Free Frequency
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Posted : Mar 26, 2008 15:29

Hey Absolut you are a promoter or a Dj?? or both?? Corect me if I m wrong but you are the head of Plasmatica ha? So you gave an answer as a Dj, give an answer as a promoter too....

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noa_


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Posted : Mar 26, 2008 15:36
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I know some promos that made parties for us AND music. But what was the "price"?? Other promos treating selfish and arrogant than supporting good efforts. This situation sucks... really. Time for changeeeeee, revolution is coming, wake up ppl!





And I know that when these promoters appeared... Some other promoters were on the phone screaming: "Who is this guy.. He is unproffessional, he is taking our jobs..I'm doing this job for years, he cannot appear from nowhere and make events.He is stealing our job! Hosting events in a place that I first made party there!He cannot!! He cant bring djs I first booked! Tell him to stop now or he will not have a good end with his events"
(it reminds me: diko mou einai egw to eida protos)

Tell me, does this show that promoters dont want money from parties?????
And ofcourse after this event some mouths stopped talking and started "support" to this guy with the bad end!
REDICULUS!!!!!
Inner State
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Posted : Mar 26, 2008 15:40
ok zoi ....lets take your post step by step....
Yes it is a fact that you where involved in this scene long before i met you....it is also true that you helped me in my first bookings with eternal motion when i didnt even know the guys...But almost 4 year later you still think that you made my name as a dj and that you are totally responsible for what ever succes i had in this scene?....or maybe that is your only argument left to hang from when failing to fullfill your responsibilities as a promoter?
if you think that you made me zoi come out here and say it loud and clear with capital letters for everyone to see and i will rest my case cause i am trylly tired of hearing this thing for 4 years.People know my contribution to the f.f...And no matter what you say or claim ,that will never change...you will only remind them the reason for wich they no longer appear at your parties...and since you are the only proffessional promoter and you treat your djs better (lockals)than anyone else could you please b kind enough to explain why you are the only promoting team most lockal djs FLED FROM?.....Where is your famous f.f roaster?....shall i procceed to my now days contribution to the f.f even though i am not a part of it for more than 2 years?shall i lay down all the facts for people to know and deside?....i think there is no point to it and things will get too far...although my original post was for all promoters i have to admit that you are the only one that has the balls to answer...and for that i give you credit...and yes it is an issue that doesnt honor us greeks nor our scene....and it consirns us all....we could spend days here zoi accousing one another and no point will b made....you say that things are not as they used to b and i tottaly agree....but my opinion is that it should b better.With so may promoting teams poping up every month the scene should b growing bigger...why this doesnt happen is something that all of you promoters mainly and all of us djs offcourse should take under consideration....Since its going from bad to worst wouldnt it b better for each and every one of us to think why this is happening?....why people dont go to parties any more what ever the artist?...is it promoters fault?...is it the djs fault?....both maybe?.....Maybe if everyone didnt think of him self and how to destroy the other promoter/dj would b better to sit down and talk about what we can all do?...not for us....but for the people ...that i regret to say choose to not go to the party than pay their few money to "him" or "her"?....And finally allow me to dissagree on the point you made that the artists bring the people...yes the artist will bring you most of the people but the spirit of the party will always lay in the hands of the lockals...they know their crowd and they know how to get them high....everyone with his own unique way....if you treat them unproffesionally then dont expect them to care about your dancefloors musicaly or technicly...
AbsolutZero(D.V.M.)
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Posted : Mar 26, 2008 15:46
as a promoter for the most o local parties at the last 4 years i have to say that rave don't bring you money and for that reason i never promise money that i can't give to any djs.
Many times djs play for free but under their consent.
When you make party with 10e entry and have under 200 ppl because only a few times the ppl support local parties,then you can understand that you can't pay the club,the security,posters & flyers etc.
and 200 ppl for local are much..
anyway...
RAVE RULLS
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noa_


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Posted : Mar 26, 2008 15:47
remember one of the best FF parties... The first one in banana... Only locals... Only fun...! Only dance! only party! "No matter if X-guest play shitty, there is Y-local that we trust k tha to swsei" (geia sou DOC +alloi)
AbsolutZero(D.V.M.)
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Posted : Mar 26, 2008 15:51
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On 2008-03-26 15:47, noa_ wrote:
remember one of the best FF parties... The first one in banana... Only locals... Only fun...! Only dance! only party! "No matter if X-guest play shitty, there is Y-local that we trust k tha to swsei" (geia sou DOC)



and i remember 1 in Aridea and 1 in Edessa 2004 from plasmatica only with locals
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PartyBitch


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Posted : Mar 26, 2008 15:57
see?? it's not difficult to keep the spirit. It's difficult to accept the fact that you lost it. First we admit our mistakes and then fix them. And that is what we call "for a change". Aren't you sick of the same and the same(attitude) really? Try something else ... for a change... and maybe you'll "save the situation"!           Dance With me..!
PartyBitch


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Posted : Mar 26, 2008 16:02
and this goes to EVERY single greek promoter... no exceptions...
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toti

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Posted : Mar 26, 2008 16:03

8eloume varea kai an8iigina..telos..

--trance is dead----
PartyBitch


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Posted : Mar 26, 2008 16:05
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AbsolutZero(D.V.M.)
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Posted : Mar 26, 2008 16:06
karalol...
iou iou...............
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AbsolutZero(D.V.M.)
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Posted : Mar 26, 2008 16:15
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On 2008-03-26 15:57, PartyBitch wrote:
see?? it's not difficult to keep the spirit. It's difficult to accept the fact that you lost it. First we admit our mistakes and then fix them. And that is what we call "for a change". Aren't you sick of the same and the same(attitude) really? Try something else ... for a change... and maybe you'll "save the situation"!



make war ...not parties
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