| Author
|
Lock: Wav !!!
|
-=Mandari=-
Mandari
Started Topics :
28
Posts :
655
Posted : Jun 15, 2011 11:38
|
i ask myself how many screamers here support their plugin/soft distributor with money.....
on topic: theres definitely no way so far to lock an audio file efficiently. it would require some sort of intelligent modular new code the information would be put on medium. the information has to be able to modulate itself when registering restricted access on it. this would require a completely new way of playing back the stuff, thus completely new, intelligent hardwares no one would like to pay for (own thoughts, but forget about a simpler way with special audio tones or codes)....
other than that, any way would be hacked in just a matter of time. even with my thought on hardware and selfmodulating information it should be a matter of time to get around it. any repeating algorithm, no matter how complex, can be calculated at the end. like already mentioned, anywhere a fence, theres a way around it.
i like to leave a thought also for you pirates out there. if you need stuff to listen, i dont get why you dont take the stuff released for free. to me its more than enough to listen. the other stuff i hear on the artists soundcloud or i just patiently wait until someone comes around with the original or i just ask the artist. whats so hard on that. id be very happy about each person asking me for my music cause they cant pay but rather want to listen and enjoy.
in fact anyone will copy the cd of his/her friend if he/she comes around with exactly the stuff you were anxious for. an artists maybe comes some more easy to the music on his/her own. but we also dont have money to pay for cds. we spend all we got to supply ppl out there with some new madness and more important, to keep satisfied and doin our thing. 100% agreed, ppl foolin us, force each artist in directions where we have to decide between life and music. an artist is an artist and not a baker or a roofer. and each i know is simply not made for working out there in a hard job, doin music after. music isnt something one can do besides, we spend our lives on that.
anyways its up to each one of us how to handle that. theres no need to pirate it. if you want the stuff, it will come to you if you just patiently wait. but its definitely more free music out there one could listen next few years.
if your intention is to play the stuff on party and you´re in a hurry one should definitely buy the stuff. in any kinda way one should buy the stuff ones using. try before buy, but fu*#!ng buy the stuff you use. you make money out of it. and secondly ones an artist. no matter if dj, vj, live, band, singer. just think about if you would like to experience the same shit ppl not respecting your hard work you put in there for a whole lot of time. you´re even not up to share and give back something to the guy who made it possible to fulfill your set and save your gages. this guy wants a few bucks for his track, you get a few hundreds after playing it.....
at the end, its all about support which is needed to keep on doing ones thing. if i would not support the suppliers of my digitals how can i be sure they will release another cool plug during time?
my2cents. anyways, we´re individuals and thus wont come to a point here with that ^^ sorry for offtopic, but was kinda interesting to follow.
cheers
  FUCK GENRES, LOVE MUSIC!!!!
http://soundcloud.com/mandarimedia
http://banyan-records.com |
|
|
|
Beat Agency
IsraTrance Full Member
Started Topics :
53
Posts :
1752
Posted : Jun 15, 2011 11:41
|
Quote:
|
On 2011-06-15 11:38, -=Mandari=- wrote:
i ask myself how many screamers here support their plugin/soft distributor with money.....
|
|
I buy every single plugin etc. Do you?
www.beatagency.dk |
|
|
|
-=Mandari=-
Mandari
Started Topics :
28
Posts :
655
Posted : Jun 15, 2011 11:47
|
no, happily i dont need that anymore, pretty satisfied with the stuff i got  but to answer your question, yes, i only use free or paid or stuff i got as a gift to work (which for sure is paid too)....
if youd read what i´ve written, you could easily have saved that question....
if you work seriously in a world of media, releasing music made with a plug not paid you can run into serious issues. and im pretty aware of that 
cheers. glad you pay the stuff you like. sorry i dont share all opinions here.... like said, just my 2 cents....
FUCK GENRES, LOVE MUSIC!!!!
http://soundcloud.com/mandarimedia
http://banyan-records.com |
|
|
|
Beat Agency
IsraTrance Full Member
Started Topics :
53
Posts :
1752
Posted : Jun 15, 2011 12:19
|
Quote:
|
On 2011-06-15 11:47, -=Mandari=- wrote:
no, happily i dont need that anymore, pretty satisfied with the stuff i got but to answer your question, yes, i only use free or paid or stuff i got as a gift to work (which for sure is paid too)....
if youd read what i´ve written, you could easily have saved that question....
if you work seriously in a world of media, releasing music made with a plug not paid you can run into serious issues. and im pretty aware of that
cheers. glad you pay the stuff you like. sorry i dont share all opinions here.... like said, just my 2 cents....
|
|
My point was to say to you to not generalize and run with assumptions as you do not know people here and if or not they pay for their plugins
www.beatagency.dk |
|
|
|
-=Mandari=-
Mandari
Started Topics :
28
Posts :
655
Posted : Jun 15, 2011 13:23
|
well was not my intention to generalize, even if it seems the thread is gone there.... maybe you didnt get my point, anyways... have fun dude i guess you dont have a clue who i know and whom not. leading nowhere ....
cheers
FUCK GENRES, LOVE MUSIC!!!!
http://soundcloud.com/mandarimedia
http://banyan-records.com |
|
|
|
Xsze
Started Topics :
5
Posts :
657
Posted : Jun 15, 2011 14:17
|
My point of view is that everyone needs the money for their hard work,equipment.....
But on the other side all that pirated stuff these days are from mainstream "artist" and for them it`s all about money now,sincerly i rather download that stuff,listen to it,and deleted it....
There are many artist with good music and i pay for their work,just because I want more of that in the future,but in case of some artist i just dont give a shit because their goal is labels,full pockets and fame 
just my 2 cents |
|
|
|
ansolas
IsraTrance Full Member
Started Topics :
108
Posts :
977
Posted : Jun 15, 2011 16:45
|
Quote:
|
On 2011-06-13 22:18, diskonekt wrote:
Quote:
|
above all we are living beings!
|
|
People who make us happy with their music are also living beings and have the need to make some cash out of music so they can live.
if not, they get a day job they hate just to pay the rent and when they get home at night they got no apetite to make music for me and you to like.
It's that simple.
|
|
cosign ~!
>I think Mp3s should be banned!
I think 128kb or lower quality should be free as promo in full length of all songs.(fair enough?)
If you really like the song just buy the wav(as DJs should if they get paiyed for their set)
so easy
(btw., on soundclound, you can easily download all music even without the download button
The only real way to protect music from being easily downloaded is to use {pseudo- } streaming:
* Adobe OSMF f4m (free!)
* Streaming via Encrypted RTMP (RTMPE) (The free approaches are less stable)
But in any case anyone can just record (but not simply download 100% of tracks and only listen to a few of them) the music if it was possible anytime. http://facebook.com/ansolas
http://ansolas.bandcamp.com/music
http://myspace.com/ansolas
http://soundcloud.com/ansolas
http://ansolas.de |
|
|
|
Flict
Started Topics :
5
Posts :
34
Posted : Jun 15, 2011 20:28
|
"It's not a problem if 20000 people 'illegally' download your music. It's a problem if they don't."
-Martin Atkins
Ambient explorations -> www.flictmusic.com |
|
|
|
vipal
IsraTrance Full Member
Started Topics :
123
Posts :
1397
Posted : Jun 16, 2011 08:03
|
[/quote]
There was a time in the 80s when parties in Goa were free, however I do not agree that there was no money involved, there may have been no entrance fee, however money did come from somewhere, cops had to be paid off, chai and Samosa stands were there, the sound system had to be rented... there had to be money involved, otherwise the parties would not have existed.
The music itself was shared and exchanged without paying, after all there was no label to sell the music.
[/quote]
the dj´s payed for all. sure the magic hat was going around on the beach to raise some cash but in essence playing meant paying. boring discussion by the way. dl changed all and now its time to find new ways.
http://soundcloud.com/vipal |
|
|
|
the daleks
The Daleks
Started Topics :
34
Posts :
584
Posted : Jun 16, 2011 11:02
|
this debate is so old and tired, and yeah boring
there really is not right or wrong.
the recording industry found a way to monetize music through technology and as a result created egotistic demigogues who were busy counting green m&m's and slapping red herrings on any starry eyed teen that wandered too close. musicians became idols and lived way too high on the hog. now times have changed and technology took back what it had giveth and a new balance is being achieved
all the bitching about not having to work a day job to do their precious art is BS imo. everyone has had to do it (i.e. provide) since the beginning of time. devoting your life to art means a life of poverty and struggle with maybe some grandeur and appreciation if lucky. Van Gogh was a poor sod, and Robert Johnson was a migrant, to name a few
i personally would like to see the cult of dj come crashing down just for the sake of bringing some egos down to earth again if nothing else.
anyway support your favorite artist as best you can, enjoy life, dont give people guilt trips, be thankful for what you have and dont be bitter for what you dont or what is less than your percieved ideal, spread the love, good ideas,evolution
Gamma Riders EP out now on iTunes and Amazon.com!
The Daleks : www.myspace.com/thedaleksupreme
A-Boys : www.myspace.com/akibaboys |
|
|
|
the daleks
The Daleks
Started Topics :
34
Posts :
584
Posted : Jun 16, 2011 11:21
|
on topic. there is no way to lock an audio file. you could just play it in a out/in recorder, (audiohijack etc) and strip out the DRM. time consuming as a last line of resort against BS DRM it works (hey I bought the track, but I cant play it in this or that software??) what the fuck is that about?? sad as it is, I will no longer purchase from itunes or similar sites for this reason, and again sad commentary on the state of the industry, I can find a better untainted product on sites like mp3fiesta or the deluge of similar sites which blatantly rip off artists and make money doing it. Far worse than the 'criminals' that DL tracks from bit torrent imo.
for the independent artists that fall below the radar, and if you like their music, you should not be ripping it and putting it in your torrents folder. that is simply wrong. Go rip and dl the fuck out of Gaga and the likes though. Please.
Gamma Riders EP out now on iTunes and Amazon.com!
The Daleks : www.myspace.com/thedaleksupreme
A-Boys : www.myspace.com/akibaboys |
|
|
|
-=Mandari=-
Mandari
Started Topics :
28
Posts :
655
Posted : Jun 16, 2011 13:59
|
|
dreadieg
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :
49
Posts :
478
Posted : Jun 16, 2011 17:13
|
………
i realized i had nothing useful to add. |
|
|
|
Perma Fry
IsraTrance Full Member
Started Topics :
56
Posts :
2835
Posted : Jun 23, 2011 00:38
|
Quote:
|
On 2011-06-15 00:57, Colin OOOD wrote:
"If you think you can milk the cow without feeding it, you shouldn't be a farmer."
|
|
|
|
|
|
Mike A
Subra
Started Topics :
185
Posts :
3954
Posted : Jun 24, 2011 13:18
|
Kris, you're tilting at windmills.
Yea, stealing is stealing but people don't give a fuck.
Like someone said here, if he could download hamburgers for free he would.
What's the solution? No idea.
|
|
|
|
|
