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Perma Fry
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Posted : Jun 13, 2011 13:43:47
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Hello
Real psychedelic listeners who are genuine will do their best to buy CD's. Sadly a HUGE following of psy still fit in to the category of illegal downloading.
My question is:
Is it possible to stop creation of mp3 by adding some info on the .wav or other CD file formats? This would help re-move piracy.
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pr0fane
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Posted : Jun 13, 2011 14:43
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If it can be played it can be copied.
The major industry have already tried with anti-copying-measures on CD's but it has been a huge failure. The result is frustrated buyers who have already purchased the product, and the music ends up as illegal downloads no matter what.
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OverloadPsystem
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Posted : Jun 13, 2011 14:45
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I think there is not, but my opinion is...
Do not sell music, give the music for free.
Coins is not comparable to a piece of art.
Everyone should have the right to access.
"Give as you gave" 
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diskonekt
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Posted : Jun 13, 2011 15:07
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On 2011-06-13 14:45, OverloadPsystem wrote:
I think there is not, but my opinion is...
Do not sell music, give the music for free.
Coins is not comparable to a piece of art.
Everyone should have the right to access.
"Give as you gave"
If all Art was free, commercial Art would not exist.
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So, George Lucas should have filmed Star Wars using his handycam and his kids legos to build the death star. Sounds logical...
Peace, Love, Death metal |
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OverloadPsystem
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Posted : Jun 13, 2011 15:40
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So, George Lucas should have filmed Star Wars using his handycam and his kids legos to build the death star. Sounds logical...
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No, you should can see the movie at home, if you want to see the film on cinema is normal to have to pay, with the music well, you should be able to listen and if you like and want to see the show you can always go to a concert...
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Jun 13, 2011 16:11
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It is not possible to "lock" an audio file. It's been done and hacked immediately.
And then the eternal debate where there will always be someone trying to justify criminal behavior.
Let's keep it simple ok?
IF you take a slice of the cake without the Bakers permission it's stealing. Simple as that!
IF you got the permission to take a slice of the cake for free then it's a gift. Simple as that!
The Baker want to earn a living from his cakes so he can continue bake his delicious cakes. If everybody steal his cakes and no one buy his cakes then he wont make a living and have to close down his Bakery. But since you LOVE his cakes it is only fair you pay him for the time he used to bake you the cake.
I personally have given away all my cakes i baked the last 18 years (some might taste funny) but that is my decision! In the future I will give away more free cakes and also ask you to pay me for some of my other cakes i will bake. It's my god given right and my sole decision and if you eat my cakes that are not free it's called stealing!
Simple as that! www.beatagency.dk |
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Soma_Happiens
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Posted : Jun 13, 2011 16:42
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Beat, well your example is not quite accurate. while baker cannot reproduce one of his cakes millions and millions of times without effort and for free, music as it is can be copied on different mediums without intervention of the author. So if you have one "cake" sliced into 8 cakes, and make a copy of it and distribute all the slices for free, the original "baker" is still left with a cake except that nobody wants to buy it, when they have exact duplicates of it. but i personally find this situation two sided - original baker is forced to innovate and find another ways to get his money - f.e. giging and shit.
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e-scape
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Posted : Jun 13, 2011 16:47
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All the great things in life are free so should music... |
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Honguito
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Posted : Jun 13, 2011 17:44
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I never understood the actually quite common belief that music is art and therefore should be free. I am pretty sure I would get into serious problem with the security if I step into the famous Louvren museum in Paris and grab the Mona Lisa painting by Da Vinci. Sure, this comparison is pretty lame because there only exists one authentic version of the painting while music can be digitally increased for the cost of almost nothing. But still, music is a product with a lot of time, effort and money behind the creation of it. Every artist happen to be part of a larger society where money is needed to survive. So who other than the artist himelf has the right to judge if his music should be sold for money or given away for free?
What complicates this is the fact that music consumption behaviour has dramatically changed, which actually benefits some artists. Unfortunately, far from every artist has been able to take part of these benefits.
In my opinion, if I create something, it is my sole right to decide if it will be given away for free or not. But it seems like technology caught up on and defeated morality.
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Jun 13, 2011 18:03
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No matter how many examples and excuses you come up with to justify illegal sharing facts remain that a person who illegal download, copy, distribute music is indeed stealing someones work and not to forget copyright! NO excuse can remove simple facts to ease people's conscience!
Live with your actions and conscience and be man/woman enough to admit that if you have illegal music on your computer you stole someones work - Don't lie to yourself and us! All your excuses are pathetic (IF you have illegal music on your computer and make up excuses)!
If you do not agree with the law change it. Do not break it! But do not come here to find sympathy or understanding among the artists! I am sure most of us agree that free music is great but I am also sure most of us agree that enjoying artists music without giving anything back (yeah yeah you pay to listen to a handful of artists playing at parties while you leech 100 of other artists music) is lame! www.beatagency.dk |
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minddoctorsmakeacid
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Posted : Jun 13, 2011 20:02
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If the equipment that we use to make music was free than music should be free as well.
You may say: "Well you make money when you play"
True but I also spend time preparing my act and am in danger of damaging or loosing my gear right?
If we had no equipment there would be no music recordings and you would allways have to go to a party to listen to live music.
So what do you think is fair?
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Jun 13, 2011 20:30
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Personally I have paid for all my equipment and software make music with. And even if not all artists does not pay (and it's wrong of them) it does not make any excuse not to pay for msuic more valid. One wrong does not make two right 
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Alekzis
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Posted : Jun 13, 2011 20:41
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i download illegal mp3 music. yes i am a criminal.
i don't have enough money to buy music. sorry.
so only if you have money you deserve to eat food, drink water, have a house, and..... listen to music.
if i could download hamburgers for free i would definitely do it.
I understand that the artist must make money in order to survive and compose more music. ok. but i'm not the one that can pay him. so here is the question, do i have the right to enjoy music? i will not pay anything anyway, but, why not? i'm a human being and i have feelings. i need art.
there is no free music or paid music. its just music.
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Jun 13, 2011 20:50
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I am poor but I have "feelings too" so I need a car so I can drive around even though I could take the train (Or download tons of free legal music and leave the illegal downloads alone). Do I have the right to enjoy a free car (steal it) because I can not pay for it? What do you think?
Music is not a daily necessary thing like food. Essential music is a luxury thing (equal to other not so necessary things to survive) and music is art created within countless hours to perfect the music according to the artists vision. I really do not care if you can not afford to pay the music but I am sure you find money to go and see a movie, go to a club/party etc. I see absolutely no difference except you would not get into the Club unless you pay.
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Alekzis
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Posted : Jun 13, 2011 21:46
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objects and art are 2 completely different things.
if you ask me EVERY LIVING MAN on this planet should have food, water, a house, and music. EVERY ONE.
if you listen to a track you don't vaporise it. it still exists. it does not come out of your ass as a turd and become useless for other humans. if you know what i mean. you can COPY it. so all humans can have a copy and enjoy it.
i have bought some cds in my life. but not anymore.
i once bought a shpongle t-shirt, because we humans need clothing, and i really wanted to help these guys produce more music because i LOVE their music.
i didn't spend money for their music, but i did help them continue producing their music.
i hope you understand what i mean.
above all we are living beings!
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