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Starbright
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Posted : Aug 22, 2003 21:16
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Just heard the liquid party has been served some kind of section and cant take place at planned location......thought I better pass this on.... does anybody have more info!? Please? |
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SIMO
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Posted : Aug 22, 2003 21:28
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...i know as much as you...let's hope!!!!!... |
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tom anteater
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Posted : Aug 23, 2003 00:08
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ok guys, from what i know they have been served a section 63 of the CJA (criminal justice act). this means they _have_ to move on or risk getting all their shit confiscated.. this does not mean they will not put on a party this weekend, just it won't be exactly as planned... all one can say for now is keep one ear on the info line because that is where they will put any information (but please do _not_ leave a message otherwise you might fuck up their phone connection!)
best of luck to the liquid crew, i hope it all turns out ok
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morgana
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Posted : Aug 23, 2003 00:43
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does anyone know of any place here in london where we can go while we wait for the news?
or in case the news turn out to be bad?
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micheru
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Posted : Aug 23, 2003 16:20
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wizzy
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Posted : Aug 25, 2003 23:49
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Something I would like to say...
posted by simon evans on Mon Aug 25 16:32:52 UTC+0100 2003
This message is not aimed at everyone.It is however, particularly aimed at certain Liquid Dis-organisers. You should say thankyou after borrowing a persons mobile, particularly if you drain all their remaining credit, and you should not ignore them, and pretend you cant hear them, when they then ask you for an update. I will refrain from using the four letter words that spring to mind but I would ask all of you to consider whether this is really the attitude we would like from our party organisers and whether we really do want to have that total lack of love and respect pervading the core of the party.
anyway
Having spent the whole of the week prior to the event loosing blood,sweat and tears fixing up some bass cabs and all of Thursday preparing , travelling and then the whole of Friday moving rig equipment round in circles, I feel I have a right to say a few things about what should have happenned.
Having done many parties in my time, the first most important thing is to secure the site with ALL local inhabitants. The bigger the party, the more important this is.
Organisation is also key. We arrived friday at 5 am, and could not find anyone who had a clue, so we went to bed, being told it would all get sorted out in the morning. We continued the search for someone with a plan all friday morning but it appeared people were still asleep or completely fucked.
Rule Number One: dont loose your brain before the party is sorted.
when we did find people they were chatting to the police, and we were told to "Just find a nice spot for your rig and set up". It wasnt till later, when we had already set up most of the rig, that we were told, firstly, that we couldnt set up there cos of fire risks, then, later, because someone else wanted to set up there, then thirdly (even later)we were told that there actually had been a plan, but this had got disregarded. Who the hell was responsible for this mess?
We were ready with our rig and could have pumped out fat tunes from 7pm onwards. Why on this dance-forsaken earth did the main rigs have so little competence / abilities / clear headedness / enthusiasm / drive / momentum to get things moving, such as we had done? Why was such a large scale, expensive party (for ALL those involved) allowed to be handled with the highest degree of muppetry, arrogance, irresponsibility and indifference?
We all had a part to play, and there is a certain significant fraction who did not get off their drug addled arses to sort it. These people know who they are.
Why the hell did no-one take charge of any of the meetings so things actually got discussed properly? There should have been back up plans already in place anyway, but at least an actual proper discussion might have helped. The last attempt, where everone joined hands to try and connect with 'The Spirit of The Dance' had me in fits of laughter and hysteria. As with all Energies and matters that involve Spirit of Any Kind, if you do not have the Skills and Knowledge, the Power is Useless.
The force was not with you, as you did not know how to make use of it. All those of us that have done parties should be able to remember, that a good location is not just a nice location, or a large enough location, or one not too far away, and NOT one that is the most voted for by a load of people who have lost the plot so bad they think a random vote from shouted out suggestions without real discussion or any examination of relevant facts would be able to lead the large number of people, vehicles and equipment in the best possible fashion to a next location for a SUCCESSFUL party. The few ideas that could have actually worked were lost under a tirade of madness and confusion.
You neednt worry yourselves whether I am a suitable person for your parties. I feel i clearly am not, and will enjoy future parties of a smaller but more successful nature, and all with virtually no expense and far less hassle.
CAN I ALSO POINT OUT THAT TRYING TO SET UP A BIG PARTY ON A PROTECTED BIRD RESERVE IS ALSO A VERY BAD THING TO DO. IT IS NOT AT ALL COMPATABLE WITH YOUR IDEALS OF A SUSTAINABLE WORLD WHICH YOU CLEARLY JUST LIKE THE SOUND OF BECAUSE YOU CAN USE BIG WORDS WITH AIRY FAIRY NONSENSE AND MAKE IT SOUND LIKE YOU ACTUALLY MIGHT KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT-WHICH YOU CLEARLY DO NOT. I AM GLAD THE POLICE STOPPED YOU AND I HOPE NOT TOO MUCH OF THE PROTECTED BIRD RESERVE WAS DESTROYED OR DAMAGED OR DISTURBED. IT WAS CLEARLY MARKED ON OUR MAPS AND EVEN THOUGH YOU MOVED TO THE NEXT FIELD AFTER BEING ACCOSTED BY THE SITE MANAGERS IT WOULD STILL BEEN A MOMONTOUSLY STUPID IDEA (BECAUSE THERE WOULD STILL HAVE BEEN VERY DISTURBED AND ANY BIRDS WITHIN MILES WOULD HAVE BEEN SCARED SHITLESS). JUST AS STUPID AS THE IDEA OF SETTING UP IN THAT BEAUTY SPOT ON DARTMOOR.
Now that I think of it, the fact that you guys have not even got a site secured in terms of the environment and environmental awareness and protection, as well as not sorting the social and political factors is profoundly disturbing, and completely contradicts the things tou say you stand for, such as love, peace and respect for this earth and all its biological inhabitants.
Please think about my sentiments. I apologise for ranting but I assure you I am not an aggressive or angry individual, I am merely a dissapointed person who feels that their time has been wasted. I had a good time anyway, but I would have had a better time doing almost anything else. I am not just focusing on the negative, either. This is partly so I dont actually have to vocally rant at anyone, a kind of therapy. I actually got quite a lot of joke this weekkend. It is just a pity it was mostly ironic or at the situational farce we found ourselves in.
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Summum Bonum
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Posted : Aug 25, 2003 23:59
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Sad
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tom anteater
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Posted : Aug 26, 2003 12:09
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