Ubuntu Studio. A multimedia creation flavor of Ubuntu.
Ubuntu Studio is aimed at the GNU/Linux audio, video and graphic enthusiast as well as professional.
We provide a suite of the best open-source applications available for multimedia creation. Completely free to use, modify and redistribute. Your only limitation is your imagination.
Our aim is to assemble suites of applications aimed at creative people. Suites including the best open-source applications available.
For instance, Ardour 2 - A multitrack recorder/editor geared toward people familiar with Pro-Tools.
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Posted : May 18, 2007 13:25
thank you, this is interesting. i'm very much interested in the future of linux pro audio. there is still much to do/achieve, but it will be worth it i think. a main issue is driver support (many manufacturers refuse to make linux drivers), another issue is ease of setup/use ("you want to make music, you don't want to be a geeky sysadmin"), and another issue is professional-grade software ("if you financially depend on your music/graphics job, you want full-featured, supported software, not some tinkerer software etc."). still, my dream is that manufacturers realize the potential of linux pro audio, and that some companies make a start, and that the rest will follow.
here's an interesting discussion i found over at the cakewalk forum:
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Posted : May 18, 2007 14:29
i dont think ull never get the chance to find a sound driver for linux, except AC97, to many lazy programmers trying to write exploits for windows
i really do respect the work of these guys there, but i dont see a future for it PSYKS
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Posted : May 18, 2007 15:23
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i dont think ull never get the chance to find a sound driver for linux, except AC97, to many lazy programmers trying to write exploits for windows
i really do respect the work of these guys there, but i dont see a future for it
With an M-Audio fast track and an oxygen 8 controller I experienced less problem than XP.
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Posted : May 18, 2007 19:37
Check out this video of FL studio 7 with other apps running simultaneously on Ubuntu...
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Posted : May 18, 2007 20:01
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On 2007-05-18 14:29, PlutoDelic wrote:
i dont think ull never get the chance to find a sound driver for linux, except AC97, to many lazy programmers trying to write exploits for windows
i really do respect the work of these guys there, but i dont see a future for it
not exacly true..
you already have alsa drivers for EMU soundcards. you just need to recompile the latest alsa software with the modules of emu soundcards..
they already have other pro audio soundcard drivers...i just don't recall them cos i was looking for my emu card support.
btw..next kernel release will have emu soundcard ready for compiling.
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Posted : May 19, 2007 15:26
Linux is the best OS that exists.
Windows is good for ordinary people that don't know how to use a computer. And the reason is because everybody has it. But you don't control the computer.. it controls you.
With linux youre in charge. Believe me, once your learn linux you won't wan't to go back. And Ubuntu is very easy... Not to forget that everything is free!!!
If youre worried, there is a small program called wine (easy to download) that emulates windows... That means most or even all of windows programs work in linux.
Just to give you a glance of it's power: the windows programmers make windows in Linux...
"ohshit" can you tell me if I can boot that version of Ubuntu on a removable drive?
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Posted : May 19, 2007 17:23
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... Not to forget that everything is free!!! ...
yes, the OS is free any many programs are. but i would like to add that if pro audio will be established on linux, then there will be commercial audio software for linux which will not be free, and this is good. consider having SONAR or any other big sequencer on linux, of course we will pay the same price as SONAR on windows. professional software with professional-grade (mature) features, (quick) bug fixes and user support simply has a price and this is ok.
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Posted : May 19, 2007 18:29
Im pretty interested on installing it..but i have doubt about the motherboard drivers, video drivers..i have two soundcard (luna and ozone) i know there a no drivers for them., but im more concerned about the mobo..sorry im no expert, i have osx for pc and works fine, it has driver support for intel and nvidia but linux i have no idea i would appreciate some advice!!!
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@Brain hacked
It's rare that the mobo is not supported, but sometimes integrated peripherals can be tricky.
Personally I never had any issues on the machines I used Linux on and most machines will run it fine.
Boot it from a live CD and you will find out.
I don't agree with that "once you learn linux you wont go back"....I used Linux quite a bit and right now there is no chance I would use it as my primary OS on my workstation.
I love the control it offers and always prefer to run OSS whenever possible, but Linux is just not an option yet.
I use it for a web server, but on my workstation I do multimedia development and audio, and there it's just too limiting to offer any kind of competition to windows.
The OS just isn't very important compared to what applications you fun.
Without a sequencer in the same class as Abelton or Logic, without drivers for my Scope, and with no Flash/Flex IDE's it doesn't matter how great the OS is or how much I prefer it on a ideological basis.
I hope things will change eventually, but considering the pace at which things are moving now I don't predict it to be within the next decade.
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Posted : May 19, 2007 22:41
There's no way anybody here can say that wondows offer competition.. It sucks..
The only reason you don't use linux is because most of the programs work in windows. But with a little program called vmware you can install windows in your linux.
just like idjuba said:
Only someone who doesn't know how to work with linux doesn't like it.
And sorry, there are some paid software for linux. But mostly it's freeware.
but since it's not the most popular OS, there might not be available drivers for some hardware.... But use a forum and ask for it.. Even if your linux doesn't have a driver for it, you run windows thru linux and problem solved.
Plus, if you run windows thru linux, bot the programs together use less CPU than just plain old windows.
Linux has been there for alot of years and mostly whoever knows better chosses linux. don´t want to start a warez here but those are facts. It's like making trance with cubase or with eJay... cubase is alot more complex and dynamic, and 2^1000 times better. on eJay it's so easy to just layer predefined samples together... In the end, you don't have any control.. Cubase is only complex in the beginning. After a while you don't wan't anything else because it's so powerfull.
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Posted : May 19, 2007 23:58
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There's no way anybody here can say that wondows offer competition.. It sucks..
XP hardly ever crashes for me, takes 32Mb of RAM in my tiny XP install.
Runs all the hardware and software I need really well.
If it sucks for you it's because you are clueless about how to configure and use it.
Seems like quite a few producers manage just fine on it anyway...unlike Linux...I don't know any successful producers using it...do you?
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The only reason you don't use linux is because most of the programs work in windows.
Indeed, it's because my software and hardware works with it.
That's really the main criteria for an OS...if it doesn't run what you want to run it doesn't matter what's going on under the hood.
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But with a little program called vmware you can install windows in your linux.
And it sucks for audio apps as well as flash flex, and it will never let me run my Scope.
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Only someone who doesn't know how to work with linux doesn't like it.
I love it, but that doesn't help when it's only good for me when i use it as a webserver, browse the web or edit a text file.
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but since it's not the most popular OS, there might not be available drivers for some hardware.... But use a forum and ask for it.. Even if your linux doesn't have a driver for it, you run windows thru linux and problem solved.
You obviously do not have a clue about stuff.
You cannot run a driver under wine.
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Plus, if you run windows thru linux, bot the programs together use less CPU than just plain old windows.
Obviously you have never tried to do so.
Not only is it slower to run under an emulator, but it also often causes problems with the functionality.
Some software don't run at all under emulators, and very little software run 100% correctly.
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Linux has been there for alot of years and mostly whoever knows better chosses linux. don´t want to start a warez here but those are facts.
Back up your facts with some famous producers who run Linux.
Or are they all clueless but you are the one with the knowledge?
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It's like making trance with cubase or with eJay... cubase is alot more complex and dynamic, and 2^1000 times better. on eJay it's so easy to just layer predefined samples together... In the end, you don't have any control.. Cubase is only complex in the beginning. After a while you don't wan't anything else because it's so powerfull.
So, you run cubase on Linux then?
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There's no way anybody here can say that wondows offer competition.. It sucks..
The only reason you don't use linux is because most of the programs work in windows. But with a little program called vmware you can install windows in your linux.
Only someone who doesn't know how to work with linux doesn't like it.
And sorry, there are some paid software for linux. But mostly it's freeware.
but since it's not the most popular OS, there might not be available drivers for some hardware.... But use a forum and ask for it.. Even if your linux doesn't have a driver for it, you run windows thru linux and problem solved.
Plus, if you run windows thru linux, bot the programs together use less CPU than just plain old windows.
Linux has been there for alot of years and mostly whoever knows better chosses linux. don´t want to start a warez here but those are facts. It's like making trance with cubase or with eJay... cubase is alot more complex and dynamic, and 2^1000 times better. on eJay it's so easy to just layer predefined samples together... In the end, you don't have any control.. Cubase is only complex in the beginning. After a while you don't wan't anything else because it's so powerfull.
Peace!
Lots of silly points here... Linux is great indeed if you want to browse the web or create office documents. But since there are no drivers for most of the Audio cards and all the major software houses are reluctant to create Linux versions for their products(Steinberg, DigiDesign, Emagic, obviously not and Native Instruments).
So yes, it maybe will run Fruity Loops but that's really not enough.
There are only 2 options right now Mac and PC. I don't see any alternative in the next few years.
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Posted : May 20, 2007 02:00
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There's no way anybody here can say that wondows offer competition.. It sucks..
Actually, the Linux kernel isn't designed for realtime applications. Windows IS better for running audio applications. It is even better than OSX which doesn't have core affinity.
Linux is better for alot of other things but not for audio.
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The only reason you don't use linux is because most of the programs work in windows.
And that is the bottom line. As long as Linux doesn't have the right tools, it isn't even in the race.
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But with a little program called vmware you can install windows in your linux.
Actually VMware runs UNDER Linux and Windows. VMware isn't part of Linux.
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Only someone who doesn't know how to work with linux doesn't like it.
I much prefer FreeBSD and that has nothing to do with not knowing how to use Linux.
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but since it's not the most popular OS, there might not be available drivers for some hardware.... But use a forum and ask for it.. Even if your linux doesn't have a driver for it, you run windows thru linux and problem solved.
As Spindrift allready pointed out, Wine is pretty much useless for audio applications but I suspect that you are refering to VMware which isn't part of Linux.
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Plus, if you run windows thru linux, bot the programs together use less CPU than just plain old windows.
This is complete rubbish.
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Linux has been there for alot of years and mostly whoever knows better chosses linux.
To run Apache, MySQL, OpenLDAP etc, sure. For professional level audio? No way.
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don´t want to start a warez here but those are facts.
No they are not.
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Cubase is only complex in the beginning. After a while you don't wan't anything else because it's so powerfull.
I use Cubase to colaborate with others but it frustrates the hell out of me because so many things are badly designed... I'm glad I have other choices.
