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linux for music production?

elesdifrend
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Posted : Nov 15, 2009 08:00:31
Is someone here running linux on his computer and running audio applications?

any feedback welcome!!
Tablet
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Posted : Nov 15, 2009 10:26
Tried many distributions.

Epic fail.....as ever with Linux hardware support is pants.
freechameleon


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Posted : Nov 15, 2009 16:41
hi. i've been using it for long time, but stopped for various reasons and i'm all hardware now. first it's a hassle to get all running and stable, but fine, through exploration you get to know your system.

you are somehow limited with your hardware. though running midi-interfaces is 'no prob' at all and there is great support for many pro firewire audio interfaces through the ffado project. don't know for usb, but many pci cards are also working fine.
so if you check the support before you buy your hardware, you are all fine.

the main reason i gave up is because i didn't succeed to get VSTs running 100%. there are linux-based synths, fx, analyzing tools, but just a few. i was always unhappy when browsing kvraudio with so many free and great VSTs and i couldn't use them..
also C6 software for elektron gear is not running on linux and there is no alternative (checked with the company).
so yes. you are limited sometimes.

i had ubuntu with RT-kernel, alsa and jack as sound servers, muse as sequencer and mainly audacity for editing.

in times when i just used muse to sequence my hardware and audacity to cut and edit my samples, all worked great.

so if you are into linux and get VSTs to work (as many do) you can work and produce with nearly no restriction. but there is a lot of system-nerding needed.

hope i could help a bit.
mukti777
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Posted : Nov 15, 2009 23:39
A great article written by Kim Cascone...

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/08/04/linux-music-workflow-switching-from-mac-os-x-to-ubuntu-with-kim-cascone/           "Any act, if in accordance with the Will, is an act of Magick."
metameme.org
robyo


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Posted : Nov 16, 2009 19:41
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On 2009-11-15 23:39, mukti777 wrote:
A great article written by Kim Cascone...

http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/08/04/linux-music-workflow-switching-from-mac-os-x-to-ubuntu-with-kim-cascone/




Excellent article! I am also considering switching to Ubuntu... has anyone had much success running Ableton Live via WINE?
Tablet
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Posted : Nov 17, 2009 01:12
anyone got a list oif compatible sound cards that use Jack?
freechameleon


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Posted : Nov 17, 2009 02:21
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On 2009-11-17 01:12, Tablet wrote:
anyone got a list oif compatible sound cards that use Jack?



they should be alsa-compatible. then running jack is no prob.

you can start here:
http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main

and search for ffado to find supported firewire devices.

sorry to say this, but if you are not able to find that easy information by yourself, you will most likely have big troubles to get it running properly..
psy-junky
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Posted : Nov 17, 2009 09:20
Good article ... hopefully there will be a day when people do not have to pay for software and open source os would be the standard amongst all this manufacturers will start releasing exclusive linux drivers for all devices and everything will run as stable as unix ever gets.           "Whoever said the best things in life are free... obviously grew their own bud"
Tablet
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Posted : Nov 17, 2009 10:17
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On 2009-11-17 09:20, psy-junky wrote:
Good article ... hopefully there will be a day when people do not have to pay for software and open source os would be the standard amongst all this manufacturers will start releasing exclusive linux drivers for all devices and everything will run as stable as unix ever gets.





I wished that too then tried over 10 distros and realized its a pile of shite.

Ideologies and the real world hey. They don't understand one and other.

Tablet
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Posted : Nov 17, 2009 10:20
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On 2009-11-17 02:21, freechameleon wrote:
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On 2009-11-17 01:12, Tablet wrote:
anyone got a list oif compatible sound cards that use Jack?



they should be alsa-compatible. then running jack is no prob.

you can start here:
http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main

and search for ffado to find supported firewire devices.

sorry to say this, but if you are not able to find that easy information by yourself, you will most likely have big troubles to get it running properly..





I tried loads of distros last year. I was just being lazy. Thanks for the link. But not one out of about 10 distos supported my dual head cards.....and for my 002 rack.....no chance.

XP works fine.
freechameleon


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Posted : Nov 17, 2009 12:21
you are thinking too much in windows here.

it's not about trying many distros and pray that one will just work by itself out of a miracle.
one has to find the right kernel-module that supports communication with your hardware chipset, tweak it if necessary and load it into the kernel permanently.

if you compare the time you have to work to legally buy all software you need on XP with the time you need to tweak a linux system, you might be better off with linux, and still have some time left for music. but hey, welcome to western civilization: better use your wallet than your brain..

in all the times i had XP myself i also encountered problems with hardware not working fine together, drivers not up-to-date, ending support for specific hardware or software and all that stuff. leading to reinstall, reinstall, buy newer, buy other..

you just cannot expect to know a linux os after one week the same as you know your windows after 10 or 15 years. we have to accept that linux needs another 3-5 years, but then it's at the same usability and functionality and hardware support as windows, but all free..
Tablet
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Posted : Nov 17, 2009 12:36
I spent a whole month trying to get Ubuntu to work. Over 1000 posts on the ubuntu forum. The ideology of open source is great. I love the idea. I want it to work. I hate consumerism etc. BUT its not upto it.

I haven't had to buy any software. and never had any of the problems you have mentioned with XP.

Linux does not have the same usability and hardware support as windows. That is a nonsense.
freechameleon


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Posted : Nov 17, 2009 21:35
you have bought no software for your windows machine?
i don't need to know anything more now..... all is clear.....

wow, you spent a month! what an effort!

i can say that when i installed ubuntu (i tried other distros in the past, not working) the first time over 2 years ago, all hardware was running and working immediately without adjustments, without hassle. my printer, my scanner, my dvbt-stick, all without additional modules or 'drivers'. just my usb-midi-interface needed special adjustements. that was all. and i solved it after a few days.. only to get my system running in RT needed work and time-investment.

i installed ubuntu on my gf's laptop. all hardware fully working, wireless internet usb stick working immediately. (i remember calling expensive costumer service when i first tried it on her windows machine, needing special adjustments. i'm not stupid, in case you might think, it was just not possible to get it going.)

many of my friends have ubuntu now, nearly all totally happy. just one doesn't get his old scanner to work, but posted to a list and programmers scheduled it to take care of. (like with nearly all hardware you report not functioning in a friendly, not demanding way.)

ever tried to install XP on newer laptops that come delivered with vista? some of them have no motherboard-support for XP anymore. you can either install vista or linux. seen this problem, a pro looked into it, nothing to do.

so before telling some fairy-tales, get your info together.

i'm just a bit passionate here, because i don't want to see people discouraged that want to try the open-source way. i just want to say it's possible.

it's always the ones that tried it just a month - wow - and say it's bullshit and not working. i've seen many people like you demanding in 1000 posts in all forums to get help. they get none! that's it. ;-)
Tablet
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Posted : Nov 17, 2009 21:47
I didn't say it was impossible. Just if your into music production in any serious capacity then I would stay clear.

Yes XP is no good for new laptops. Thats a real shame. Fortunately there is OSX
danieLs@n
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Posted : Nov 18, 2009 23:25
For me linux is nowhere near ready for being an OS where you can produce serious music.

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