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mk47
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Posted : Feb 13, 2007 21:01
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hello iv a question
so we all heard about how important it is to high pass , eq the lows so that the mix dosnt get to muddy / bassy etc etc .. but what about the high end ? what about just letting it be ? is there such a thing as too much highs that fuck up a track ? how ?
im talking specifically about the percussive bits here .. generally i try and keep the bass low , fx/leads in the middle(high and low passed) ..and leave the drums alone ..exept removing whatever lows there mite be by filtering them as well ..
am i doing something wrong here ? is there a general rule of thumb for the eq`ing highs as well that iv `bypassed` ?
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psylevation
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Posted : Feb 13, 2007 21:39
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Just remember that eqing a sound even just a bit of it is going to effect the whole sound (not as much with a linear phase eq).
Think of your sound like a rubber band, If you have it stretched between 2 points and you press your finger down on one part it will stretch the whole thing, obviously the most where your finger is, but the other parts too.
Anyway, I tend to run alot of my single hit drums through a bandpass fiter so that I can basically move each sound up or down a bit in the frequency spectrum. I may also eq out harsh frequencies that hurt my ears or irritate them, alot of times around the 2khz range, just a bit of a reduction.
I never really remove any frequency completely from a sound.
It really just comes down to being able to make the sounds all heard at the same time, so they don't cover each other up too much. So you take a little bit from that Hat sound in a certain frequency where it isn't too important, so that another drum that uses that frequency can have more volume in that spot.
It just comes down to how you want it to sound, If it's too harsh sounding to you, maybe take some away. If it's not and you can hear all the sounds pretty well, then don't do anything to it. Don't do anything to the sound if you don't have to.
Try and pick good sounds that fit togther from the start, maybe you wont have to touch an eq....probably not, but maybe.
hope that helps
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soulfood
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Posted : Feb 14, 2007 20:30
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I think this all depends on personal taste. I round off certain parts of things that don't complement the sound on either end of the mix, but never completely cut. If I think my bass is too muddy I EQ it as I do with the high end if it sounds too airy. The highest things in my mixes are also usually the kick and many of sweeping sounds and other assorted atmospherics so I EQ hi hats to give these elements space.
Hi hats can stop anywhere near between 14,000 - 20,000 and it all depends on the samples/sounds you are using.
I think when it comes to questions like this people need to start trusting their own judgement more and with time you will become much more confident. If you get into the habbit of cutting certain frequencies just because of something you have been told all you are doing is reducing the space you have to work with. |
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psyaudionamics
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Posted : Feb 15, 2007 07:29
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also it depend alot on ur monitors and the acoustics of ur room so be very careful....
just get ur highs to sizzle...
im not too tecknical im practicly 80% all ears and the 0ther 20% tekkie lol.
if it sounds good leave it alone but do please i repeat please chek the mix out in as many sources as u can... |
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faxinadu
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Posted : Feb 16, 2007 11:21
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Feb 16, 2007 14:06
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I've been told that it's a matter of balance and i think it's true. If you turn up your low end, you turn down your hi end and the other way around. So it can be helpful to aim at making a balanced mix, instead of focussing too much on one part of the frequency spectrum.
One thing that i've found helpful is eq-ing out the harsh bits at around 4-5 and 8 Khz and leave in some really high sounds. This gives the the mix a nice transparent sound.
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UnderTow
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Posted : Feb 16, 2007 15:14
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I find most modern stuff to be too bright. So if you want a modern sound, you need to boost the highs a bit.
Also, making things sharp will give the impression of them being a bit louder. So if you want modern loud, part of that is achieved by making things too bright and sharp.
I'll do the same as Boobytrip and notch out a bit at arround 3-5Khz if things are sounding a bit painfull.
Just remember that the intended purpouse of all this is to play this stuff on a 100Kw festival sound system. Deaf fans don't buy much music. 
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