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Leaving Master Channel Clean

kabbalisticvillage
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Posted : Aug 14, 2010 22:55:00
I know that one is supposed to put nothing on his master channel........i stumbled just now across soundgoodizer in fl studio and i put it on the master channel......its making things sound amazing but is it good to leave it on there even before mixdown and mastering or should i take it off?
musAphira
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Posted : Aug 14, 2010 23:09
my advice is : put it on the master channel as well as an eq and leave it OFF !!!
and when you add an instrument e.g. and adjust the sound/volume of it and it sounds good to your ears -> THEN turn on the eq and/or the soundgoodizer and check if you could adjust the instruments sound more according to your FINAL SOUND !!!
that means that the eq or sg ONLY can lead you to a better mix.
but don't produce the whole track with these "toys" on!!! i'll promise that you have to do the mix again after all

so this is the way i use such "toys".
so keep the master clean is my advice/opinion!

greetz
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elastic_plastic
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Posted : Aug 14, 2010 23:44
i have posted earlier regarding the same.... n from what i hear and read over various forums its always better to keep the master channel clean.... volume can always be taken off while mastering. also when u render -3db headroom is good enough with no limiter on it.

but

in the thread i had started i did also read that axis mundi discussed using a limiter while workin on live sets.
wizanda
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Posted : Aug 15, 2010 00:50
Sound Goodizer can be dangerous, its heavy compression, saturation and expansion; its using presets, which you can see and adjust within Maximus.
If you look at that track remixed for you, normally have an EQ cutting 20hz and 20khz, so it doesn't bust my speakers or ears and a Maximus preset, that adds a slight warmer, yet flick that on and off, to first balance the mix without it and then already know, any overall additions it will make in advance.
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OpTiKoOl
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Posted : Aug 15, 2010 08:46
i use cubase....and in the last too inserts (7 & 8) i normally. have a L2 and a spectrum analyzer . (in this order)

the L2 is not doing anything 'too harsh', it just sit's there...so i can listen (when wanted) the sound a little higher in volume. (i never see L2 there as a final plguins with final config) it justs helps me to see things clearly (i believe ).
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dija
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Posted : Aug 16, 2010 01:36
do your entire mix by ear with nothing on master like stated above maybe have it on channel but disabled just to test what a sound sounds like with it. then at the end if you wanna try some generic mastering its all up to you. i admit i do it just to bring my tracks up to normal volume cuz people just dont understand audio they think it should be bangin compressed all to hell.           http://www.youtube.com/user/trawhi (tutorials)
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Zero-Blade
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Posted : Aug 16, 2010 15:30
The master channel should be clean of compressors and limiters. You can use any other effects on it. So,
Soundgoodizer is a big no-no for the master!           Triplag Music
http://www.triplag.com/

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Psydust
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Posted : Aug 16, 2010 18:38
my mastering chain goes like this:
1. EQ
2. Boost x(upward compression) with subtle boost
3. Limitor X
4. Wavelab level normalizer

result is usually -7db to -8db of overall rms loudness.
dija
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Posted : Aug 17, 2010 01:54
-7 and -8 rms is pushing pretty hard no? i've always tried to stay between -9 -11           http://www.youtube.com/user/trawhi (tutorials)
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Psydust
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Posted : Aug 17, 2010 02:53
yes -9 is usually a standard.. but you know.. loudness wars..
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