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lead seems easy. must be?

Obelizk
Amoeba

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Posted : Sep 1, 2009 01:33:16
The lead comes in at 1:40 in the song - "Only Planet"

http://www.myspace.com/eatstaticspace

I hear lots of leads like this. Some I think are sampled monk singing sounds, but this sounds obviously synthetic.

Basically I want to know how to make this one, and just how to make vocal sounding leads in general for any synth what are the basics to achieving that vocal kind of sound?

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soulfood
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Posted : Sep 1, 2009 02:38
Ehm... I can't tell you exactly what he's doing to make that lead but I can tell you what I do for vocal leads... and I think my way sounds much better.

If you have a filter plugin which allows you to have 3 band pass filters routed paralell, then that's great.

I just send a sound to 3 buses each with a band pass filter assigned to it, the idea being that you can target three seperate frequency zones within one sound.

You can do this with a regular 2 filter synth targetting just 2 frequencies but I think that 1 extra adds a whole world of clarity.

Anyway I'm going to write a list of a few vowels just to give you an idea, but to be honest I get the most interesting results when I just go crazy with it. The actual sound is in brackets, I've just used a word around it to highlight the pronounciation.

F(ee)t- 270,2300,3000
S(i)t - 400, 2000,2550
V(e)t- 530, 1850, 2500
c(a)t - 660, 1700, 2400
c(ar)t - 730, 1100, 2450
h(ur)t - 490, 1350, 1700
b(oo)t - 440, 1000, 2250

So if you automate your filters you can make sounds like "ear" "ooee" and so on.

There is a simpler way to get rough vowel sounds like in the track in your thread, but this is a pretty good outline of the physics involved.

Follow this and you will have some very convincing vocal sounds.

Obviously the narrower the band width, the more clarity the vowel will have, but wider bandwidth tend to sound fatter.
Saii
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Posted : Sep 1, 2009 05:01
hey soulfood thanks for the info but whats an example of a PC or mac (preferably) plugin that i can do this with?           saii.rave.ca
soulfood
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Posted : Sep 1, 2009 05:59
Any filter plugin really. I just use multiple instances on 3 seperate buses.

I think Antares allows for 3 filters in paralell though.
Saii
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Posted : Sep 1, 2009 06:03
do u work in ableton?
do u have a rack?
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Obelizk
Amoeba

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Posted : Sep 1, 2009 17:05
Soulfood this is great. Will try it right away. Thanks!          www.musicproductionnatural.com || www.facebook.com/djamoeba | facebook page
aciduss
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Posted : Sep 1, 2009 21:16
2 words: Delay Lama !!!

Profit
Obelizk
Amoeba

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Posted : Sep 1, 2009 21:34
Are there any more tips for using just a synth to make ooo's and ah's?           www.musicproductionnatural.com || www.facebook.com/djamoeba | facebook page
Saii
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Sep 1, 2009 21:45
i no formant filters do it but never tried it really except for discovery's but i dont really know how to make it stand out from the filter cuz its very subtle
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soulfood
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Posted : Sep 1, 2009 22:42
assign mod wheel or LFO to 2 filters so when one goes up one goes down.

I hear this sound a LOT.
Medea
Aedem/Medea

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Posted : Sep 1, 2009 23:33
Obelizk, did you read this? - http://www.cosmosis.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=14&Itemid=40           http://soundcloud.com/aedem
psylevation
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Posted : Sep 2, 2009 00:33
You could use Fabfilter Volcano to do this...

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Fuzulu
Fuzulu

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Posted : Sep 2, 2009 00:52
u could also try obelisk ... i mean hey Obelizk u could also try the plugin obelisk
Obelizk
Amoeba

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Posted : Sep 2, 2009 05:18
oh haha. I've never even heard of that. I will try all these suggestions. Thanks everyone.

and Medea, I never read that article, nor have I used Fabfilter Volcano, but I've read good things about it.           www.musicproductionnatural.com || www.facebook.com/djamoeba | facebook page
D-Alien
Oxidelic

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Posted : Sep 2, 2009 11:03
did you try the WOW vst from Sugar Bytes?
It has this special Vowels mode! you can run any sound trough it, and it will start speaking. it has 9 vowels i think:
U, UE, O, OE, A, A:, AE, E, I.

you can automate it manually, or via envelopes or via step seq. immense possibilities.           Sound:
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