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Posted : Dec 28, 2008 05:35:36
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Hello,
I want only one midi-track routed to many vst-synthies,
can somebody tell me, how it works in Cubase SX3??
I know that I can use many midi-tracks that i can route to the vst-synthis, but I want only one??
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Larrikin
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Posted : Dec 28, 2008 11:30
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Dec 28, 2008 11:31
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afaik you can stick to the track some more synthies at the inserts but than not much more when it comes to one midi track  |
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smehoparanoya
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Posted : Dec 28, 2008 17:42
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Just copy midi track or duplicate it and choose whatever synths in the output of the midi tracks (one per track though), + you can hide the midis inside a folder track! 
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A.Rosengren
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Posted : Dec 28, 2008 17:47
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Could you please explain why you would like to limit yourself to only 1 midi track, i dont understand why there is a need for only 1 midi track when you can have many
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shellbound
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Posted : Dec 29, 2008 00:17
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On 2008-12-28 17:47, A.Rosengren wrote:
Could you please explain why you would like to limit yourself to only 1 midi track, i dont understand why there is a need for only 1 midi track when you can have many
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for me why i found this useful is because of the original Drum Kit From Hell. you have 2 versions of the same kit: room mic'ed and close mic'ed; so you can control their volume separately and can effect them separately as well. but you need to run 2 instances of battery and naturally it becomes a pain in the ass to always copy the sequences for the room one. i don't use DKFH for psy, but that's where i do my drum sequencing for metal or experimental rock, where i'm going for as much realism as i can get.
so this is pasted from that long Cubase Tips thread you guys had here a few years back
(or maybe it was a re-post from somewhere else):
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MIDI Stacking Tricks Part 1:
STACKING VSTi INTO A SINGLE TRACK, using the track Sends. (You can "quick-n-dirty" stack up to four additional VSTi this way, for playback and record... Also great for playing live!)
- Load two or three VST Instruments into the VSTi rack. (For this example, I'm using one instance each of Plex and PPG Wave.)
- Create a MIDI Track, and assign the Out to Plex.
- In the Inspector, flip to the Sends Panel.
- In the first Send, Select an Effect, and route (connect) the Send to the PPG Wave.
- PLAY! The audio from both VSTi will play together... If you record events to that track, playback will also sound both instruments...
(INSIDE TIP: if you don't want to "effect" the PPG, just stack it "dry" with the Plex, select something like "Auto Pan" as the effect, and don't assign any presets. However, applying various effects to the Sends makes for an interesting stack!)
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MIDI Stacking Tricks Part 2:
STACKING MIDI/VSTi AND REWIRE INSTRUMENTS IN MULTIPLE TRACKS, using "multi-track select".
With this method, you can also build a "quick-n-dirty" stack with as many tracks as you like, for playback and record... Also great for playing live! In this case, however, you can also record identical event data to multiple tracks (instead of only one) for later tweaking...
As well, you can tweak parameters (like transpose, etc.) seperately in each track to "fatten up" the resulting stack.
For this example I'm using one instance of Plex, one instance of PPG WAVE, and running Rewired to Reason, with one instance of Subtractor loaded.
- Create three MIDI Tracks. Assign the first to Plex, the second to PPG WAVE, and the third to the Reason Subtractor.
- Shift-select the three tracks.
- PLAY! The audio from all three instruments will play together... If you record, identical events will be recorded to all three tracks.
(Note there is no need to specifically turn on "multi-record"...!)
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psylevation
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Posted : Dec 31, 2008 06:30
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Make a new MIDI track then select the midi parts that you wish to play your may different instruments.
Hold ALT+SHIFT then drag those parts to your new MIDI track. Assign your new MIDI track to the instrument you want it to control. (repeat as many times as necessary)
Now if you change the MIDI notes on the original track it will change all the notes you copied this way to the same notes.
Thats the only way I know how to it.
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smehoparanoya
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Posted : Jan 1, 2009 16:59
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That's a good tip, thanks man
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Posted : Jan 31, 2009 12:28
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On 2008-12-28 17:47, A.Rosengren wrote:
Could you please explain why you would like to limit yourself to only 1 midi track, i dont understand why there is a need for only 1 midi track when you can have many
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many thx for all quick replies, I was absent here for a while, sorry for my late answer
I thought if i have one midi pattern played with more than one instance of the same synthi with changed settings.
But you can also do with copied miditrack and more vst instances, you are right.
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jizy
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Posted : Jan 31, 2009 17:50
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On 2008-12-31 06:30, psylevation wrote:
Make a new MIDI track then select the midi parts that you wish to play your may different instruments.
Hold ALT+SHIFT then drag those parts to your new MIDI track. Assign your new MIDI track to the instrument you want it to control. (repeat as many times as necessary)
Now if you change the MIDI notes on the original track it will change all the notes you copied this way to the same notes.
Thats the only way I know how to it.
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midi parts?
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Posted : Feb 12, 2009 05:42
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On 2008-12-31 06:30, psylevation wrote:
Make a new MIDI track then select the midi parts that you wish to play your may different instruments.
Hold ALT+SHIFT then drag those parts to your new MIDI track. Assign your new MIDI track to the instrument you want it to control. (repeat as many times as necessary)
all the way bro
Now if you change the MIDI notes on the original track it will change all the notes you copied this way to the same notes.
Thats the only way I know how to it.
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yup, me 2
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Enertopia
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Posted : Feb 13, 2009 04:47
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On 2009-02-13 04:47, Enertopia wrote:
I used to use this http://www.xlutop.com/html/products.html
It is a GREAT plugin, you can layer a bunch of synths playing at same time, really FAT stuff you can create.
worth a look.
By the way, not only synths, you can add effects to your chain too!
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thx for the nice plugin, I'll give it a try
it looks quite nice for me ;-) |
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Perma Fry
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Posted : Mar 14, 2009 14:28
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On 2009-02-13 04:47, Enertopia wrote:
I used to use this http://www.xlutop.com/html/products.html
It is a GREAT plugin, you can layer a bunch of synths playing at same time, really FAT stuff you can create.
worth a look.
By the way, not only synths, you can add effects to your chain too!
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The copy paste new midi track idea works really well.
This plugin sounds like a fun experiment
Thanks for the share.
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