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Last Trip To Israel - disaster dj stories from around the world
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moki
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Posted : Jan 29, 2011 02:26
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| moki come on, i really can't stay anymore in my basic view of the world (the view of the world as land and not identities etc.)i love to feel this way but it's not possible since everyday people duy non stop,no matter what the rest of the world's reactions. btw, don't you see that an activism trip to israel is literaly hopeless? |
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right, it is not all the time possible to think of the world as a single united ball rotating between the stars, because the everyday life will show you fast that you need to know the rules of the "jungle" in order to survive. and to act appropriately. because the rule of evolution is very simple - you survive and adapt to any given circumstance or you just dont. and if you are not adaptable you better keep to old paradigmas and systems of calm certainty. places like israel are more like an unpredictable adventure than a certain paradigma of what expects you.
this lecture in the topic was btw a brilliant message of how important it is to know the jungle and to be able to survive whatever you do. the jungle in our case is the supressing element of a society (leviathan). the story is a lesson of a warning.
so am sure that now lots of travellers know more about how to adapt better in case they go to israel or any country they consider risky.
the earth i meant was kind of an attempt for an alternative optimistic view on adventures in foreign places. it is not only risky to go there, because the other side of the coin speaks for adventure and the very transcending opportunity to feel the wholeness of one and the same earth.
the more our visual resolution of national boundaries dissapears and fades away, the more we will be able to feel connected to a force which is called " trust in the universe". it means to know that you are safe whereever you go, because the earth is with you, whereever you go.
and yes there is always hope as far as we realize the importance to feel responsible for whatever failure we witness on this earth. the state of the planet is a political failure of each of our national systems, together. escapism and selective membranes of reality , where all problematic situations are the fault of a few others, are now to burst and dissolve.
and i can imagine peace activism in the trance scene dedicated to be agains war situations. of course, may be i am deluded myself and dont know how dangerous is the situation . oh btw sorry for using the word you, i was not adressing anyone just a kind of a mirror.
and as a citizen of an earth, it is nevertheless good to know the functionality of national identities and use them in appropriate way. but i believe that people associate their mind much more with a culture and not a nationality. sometimes more different cultures as an open source cultural fragmentations ..
hm sorry, this was ways too much. just wanted to say boom.
hugs back Betty Boop , thanks!:)
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goa-ganges
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Posted : Jan 29, 2011 17:00
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On 2011-01-28 18:30, Pelinpala wrote:
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On 2011-01-27 23:23, goa-ganges wrote:
IMO, Haltya's trip was really bad, and he's lucky nothing more serious happened to him, given the official and personal aggressiveness he experienced throughout his stay in Israel. Despite laughing a little about "the faggots", the whole rest of his story was just a step from a real nightmare. I, and you too, have heard of foreigners disappearing in a distant country without a trace and this happens even in every country (actually I have a friend who has just vanished in Japan, the last we heard he had a real bad situation in Osaka, Japanese mafia HQs). I even dare say that Haltya was somehow naive, betting that nothing bad would happen to him. If I were him, the first thing I would do was to go to my embassy in Tel Aviv and let them know what I was going through, and I would make it very clear to those f***ing organizers that I had done so. As a reader's advice: before you accept being booked, check the organization's reputation. It's quite easy these days. You can google them, ask here in Isratrance or Psynews, there are a lot of people who can give you hints on that.
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look, i dont think its naive to go and play music in another country at all when you are invited. thats the idea for us psysters. it would be naive not to do so just because of fear. music is stronger than that.
in this case the production hasamba also brought for example shpongle etc, so they had an ok status from what i heard. not anymore though in my book.
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people are kinda getting political and off topic here.
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I meant I think you're naive because you were not cautious WHEN things went off tracks, like when that guy came pointing fingers on your face or threatened you in your hotel room. Of course you can't hide from the world - you have to travel fearless to play your music. And what happened to you in Israel, can happen in everywhere in the world - I comes to my mind a real bad story Darl Elf went thru in Brazil - one of psytrance's paradise.
And yes, this thread became political. We are talking about Israel, not Nepal.
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Pelinpala
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Posted : Jan 29, 2011 17:35
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On 2011-01-29 17:00, goa-ganges wrote:
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On 2011-01-28 18:30, Pelinpala wrote:
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On 2011-01-27 23:23, goa-ganges wrote:
IMO, Haltya's trip was really bad, and he's lucky nothing more serious happened to him, given the official and personal aggressiveness he experienced throughout his stay in Israel. Despite laughing a little about "the faggots", the whole rest of his story was just a step from a real nightmare. I, and you too, have heard of foreigners disappearing in a distant country without a trace and this happens even in every country (actually I have a friend who has just vanished in Japan, the last we heard he had a real bad situation in Osaka, Japanese mafia HQs). I even dare say that Haltya was somehow naive, betting that nothing bad would happen to him. If I were him, the first thing I would do was to go to my embassy in Tel Aviv and let them know what I was going through, and I would make it very clear to those f***ing organizers that I had done so. As a reader's advice: before you accept being booked, check the organization's reputation. It's quite easy these days. You can google them, ask here in Isratrance or Psynews, there are a lot of people who can give you hints on that.
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look, i dont think its naive to go and play music in another country at all when you are invited. thats the idea for us psysters. it would be naive not to do so just because of fear. music is stronger than that.
in this case the production hasamba also brought for example shpongle etc, so they had an ok status from what i heard. not anymore though in my book.
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people are kinda getting political and off topic here.
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I meant I think you're naive because you were not cautious WHEN things went off tracks, like when that guy came pointing fingers on your face or threatened you in your hotel room. Of course you can't hide from the world - you have to travel fearless to play your music. And what happened to you in Israel, can happen in everywhere in the world - I comes to my mind a real bad story Darl Elf went thru in Brazil - one of psytrance's paradise.
And yes, this thread became political. We are talking about Israel, not Nepal.
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yeah can happen anywhere to anybody anytime.
I will be sure to post my experiences about brazil here too at some point for people to read. Lots of goodie stories form there.
I think it is very important for people here, especially new starting traveler djs to hear these stories.
its just good reference material.
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Astrida
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Posted : Jan 29, 2011 19:15
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what a horrifying experience ( especially the "arab eating" part )..hope it never happens to anybody again..
 ..deep beneath the rolling waves in labyrinths of coral caves an echo of a distant time comes willowing across the sand..
..short magic moment of the dusk and down shadows, just wake your deeper feeling of beauty. So, keep it longer!.. |
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Carbuncle
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Posted : Jan 29, 2011 22:44
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Happy u end up good,hope it never happens to anybody! 
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Odden
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Posted : Jan 30, 2011 06:06
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Thanks for sharing your story, Pelinpala. I am not, and probably will never be a travelling DJ, but it was a fascinating read and very well written!
It is admirable that you have noticed so many details in a very chaotic situation, and been able to put them in with such a nice ironic distance for us readers to enjoy. Even though the story is crazy, and obviously have been horrible to go through, I still couldn't help but laugh a few times at how you observed certain absurdities.
I have to admit the discussion and issue regarding Pelinpala's illness and lack of "groundedness" is absurd. I thought he dealt with the situation very well in any case - sick or not. A lot of the things he tells about are clearly not anything he could have prevented happening even though he was grounded. I mean: If I had to go without food as long as he did, even though I was good and well, I would have been pretty grumpy, and I don't even want to think about how I would have been dealing with it if I was sick too.
And that's the problem: As someone invited to play, it shouldn't even be a problem. These organizers clearly didn't do their duty as organizers taking care of the artists they invited. There are numerous examples in the story.
And whether or not Texas Faggott complained really has nothing to do with Pelinpala's experience. In all fairness, their experience could have differed a lot, even though there seems to have been some unfortunate events for them too.
But just because they haven't written about it, doesn't mean they necessarily has nothing to say against the organisers. Or they might just have been happy to have gone through an insane experience for tales to the grandkids later.
Again, this really has nothing to do with what Pelinpala went through and what he is telling us in the story. His hosts did not treat him very well and because of that his experience got bad to the point of absurd.
Good to hear you are doing well now.
"... the fundamental striving of every man should be to create for himself an inner freedom towards life and to prepare for himself a happy old age." - Gurdjieff |
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kukan-dub-lagan/ItaiTaiko
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Posted : Feb 4, 2011 11:43
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On 2011-01-26 18:59, Colin OOOD wrote:
If it's the hair that makes the immigration guys do this to people, then I am fucked. Makes me want to get a Tshirt made for the journey that says "I am not a terrorist, don't treat me like one".
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it is hard here mate, but please
it is not that there is no security in other places around the world this days.
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Dogon
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Posted : Feb 4, 2011 12:30
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Sad & somewhat funny!!
You took it bravely though, good to know you are back & healthy, well thats what matter innit!
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