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LAPTOPS and Graphics Problem - PLEASE READ

FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Jul 18, 2005 20:11
Hi,

I got an HP Pavilion zv5390 laptop, a powerfull computer with 1024mb ram and a P4 3.4Ghz Hyper-thread Processor

However, I am since the time i bought it triyng to get some problems with audio playback distortions cliks and pops in cubase, wich makes music making quite an impossible task

Recently I found through diferent forums over the net that the problem comes from the graphic card (ATI Mobility Radeon 9000/9100 IGP)wich seems to be not compatible with audio playback in many music making softwares

Unfortunatelly also, I found through HP support line that it is impossible to change the chipset of the graphic card...

So...my only option...is to sell my computer, loose a lot of money, and buy a new one....

To make sure I´ll make a good buy this time, (i can´t loose more money) I wanted to ask for some laptop suggestions... wich laptops and wich processors you recommend that from experience have been working smoothly..? (I don´t need a fancy laptop, i need a consistent machine that won´t give me more uncompabilities bullshits...)

And also...if anyone had the same problem with this graphics card and found a solution to it, please enligten me with what you did, that would certainly make my day!

Thanks a lot for those who took a time to read this, its a matter of great importance to me

And if you're buying a new laptop, make sure you don´t buy one with this graphic card!!!

BoommZZ!!

Joao
e-motion
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Posted : Jul 18, 2005 22:29
why can't you change the graphic card? because of the motherboard ? if yes you can keep the RAM, processor, etc and buy a new motherboard and graphic card (one cheap will do for music production i think).

don't know if this is possible with laptops so it's a bit a shot in the dark

boa sorte
Lord Deo


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Posted : Jul 18, 2005 23:25
you can't change the graphic card on laptop since it's ironed to the motherboard. duh.

anyway FluoSamsara, you could try and get somewhat decent audio interface/card (USB or firewire) for your laptop and disable internal one. that should solve the clicking/poping problem.           www.venomous2.com
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Hayez


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Posted : Jul 18, 2005 23:30
I find it hard to belive that it's impossible to solve the problem. allthough you can't replace the graphic card, you can replace the audio interface and use an external one (if you're not doing it alraedy). anyway, give more information on your soundcard and drivers and maybe someone could help.
BTW, I've always avoided HP's just becuase of hearing stories like that.           "a new art came into my mind which only you can create, the Art of Noises, the logical consequence of your marvelous innovations." Russolo, 1913
e-motion
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Posted : Jul 18, 2005 23:35
the problem is in the graphic card, not the sound card... duh.

and i didn't said to change the graphic card... i said change the motherboard... duh. and i asked if it was possible duh

understand duh?
Lord Deo


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Posted : Jul 18, 2005 23:38
dude why you flippin' out? ha ha

anyway changing motherboard on laptop could cost as much as getting new one
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e-motion
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Posted : Jul 19, 2005 00:00
just get the same motherboard without that graphic card you can keep the other stuff

anyway i'm shooting in the dark... i have never had a laptop loool



oh and yeah... duh !
phobium
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Posted : Jul 19, 2005 01:34
I had the same problem with a soundcard once (can't remember which one it was though ), but it fixed itself when I got a new driver for it.           ________________________
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Lithium
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Posted : Jul 19, 2005 14:07
hi fluosamsara

there must be another way round so solve this problem. have you tried to contact HP costumer service, to be absolutly sure that its the graphic card that is creating the incompatibility? Hp must have a solution for this mostly because if this is really the problem it must have happened to other people before as well, and can be considered a malfunciotion of the equipment. Hp is not properly a "white label" pc company.
anyway thanks for sharing, not buying HP myself. hope you can solve this.
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Megalopsy

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Posted : Jul 19, 2005 16:10
hey there fella,
try downloading the last driverpack from ATI's homepage (https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=27), and also download the last XP firmware/updates.
ask a friend to lend one external sound card and try it, it could worth the shot.
onboard sound cards are awful for music producion, they are simply not built for this kind of tasks. So are HP building notebooks, not professional at all ;(

hope it helped
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Darkpsy

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Posted : Jul 19, 2005 20:38
hey mate i would tell u this , chek hp suport site , cchek for latest drivers , and chek as well in the windows suport page , they might talk about some problems like this , and they might have a solution .

then second option , use firewire or usb sound card , forget on board , disable on bios the onboard one , disable everything on the bios u dont need , paralell ports etc modem , blabla .

and btw on the HP suport page , u will find the updates for almost all the hardware inside your laptop , so download everything from there.           "HIGH PULSE" AKA FUSION OF DARKPSY PROJECTS
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Posted : Jul 20, 2005 11:18
check www.musicxp.net, apply all the tuning and services tips, then see if it works or not... do not get panicing about it... what sound card do u use?           ----------------------------------------------
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FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Jul 27, 2005 03:27
im not using an onboard sound card, i´ve tried using an m-audio usb quattro, m-audio firewire 410, and also asion4all with onboard sound card and had exactly same problem on all of them...

i´ve tried installing diferent drivers for graphis... didn´t work, i´ve contacted hp and they say they don´t have a solution and compabilities problems have no warrantie...tomorrow i´ll try and contact ati...

anyway, thanks for all your tips guys´:) i was away so couldn´t reply sooner, but i was glad to see so many replies

its REAALLY frustrating to spend a lot of money with a laptop and then nothing is working...!i just wanna make some muuziikkkkk
ucc
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Posted : Jul 27, 2005 03:49
i got an amilo pro, can't tell right now wich, solid as a rock, no problems till now, if you're still looking for some check http://www.fujitsu-siemens.com/products/mobile/notebooks/amilo_prov_series.html
Spindrift
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Posted : Jul 27, 2005 12:29
Just one thing...that HP says you cannot change the gfx card can mean a variety of things:
1) the person you spoke to have no clue.
2) they don't have or know of any alternative gfx cards for that model.
3) they would not dare to take in the machine and charge you for changing to a card they don't normally use or support for that model
4) it's indeed to hard or impossible to change the gfx for a user without fucking anything up.
5) they could never imagine that someone would even try to change to a not officially supported gfx card and thereby void their warranty

I don't know which of the alternatives is most likely, but I know I never trust a support person from a company like HP.
I know that on my DELL inspiron it's possible to manage to change the gfx card without soldering.
If you can select different amount of gfx memory when buying that model I would suspect that the gfx is not actually on the motherboard and hence replaceable.

But anywhichway it doesn't seem like such an tempting taks to start making surgery on your brand new machine and I would hate to be in the predicament you are in now.
I had similar problems when I got my Inspiron, but it luckily was solved after a while with a BIOS update.

DELL do make very solid laptops and even if they have the worst service I ever experienced I would still recommend one for a audio laptop.           (``·.¸(``·.¸(``·.¸¸.·`´)¸.·`´)¸.·`´)
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