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kriz
Horrordelic Records
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Posted : Oct 28, 2008 10:45
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The agreement should be held.. And labesl only selling 20-50 copies of cd`s ? Then the label is failing to distribute the cds.. With the online comunity it is easy to get your work spread, but you must work (maybe more than before).. Advertising the right places, getting the cd known...
So many things the label can do.. And I dont think that only one online shop with exclusive distribution rights is the way to go....
  3o~ kriz aka krize 3o~ ....Horrordelic Records.... http://www.horrordelic.com
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Remy [POF]
Principles Of Flight
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Posted : Oct 28, 2008 14:22
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On 2008-10-28 10:45, kriz wrote:
So many things the label can do.. And I dont think that only one online shop with exclusive distribution rights is the way to go....
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I agree with you on that, last year a budy sold 27copies of his album in a party of about 300ppl. I think ppl are cold when it comes to buying from online shops.
I was also talking with a metal producer a couple of weeks ago, he told me that he has a band that got there fans to pay for the CD before it is produced. They put up a paypal service and they had about 500fans that donated each 25e so they gained more then 12000e, and that was currently paying their studio sessions and was also going to pay the design for the cover, pressing and shipping of the cd and dvd.
Of course you need a serious fan base to be able to do something like this, and maybe it's not a good solution for a psytrance project but i thought the idea was cool..
On 2011-03-08 23:13, moki wrote:
listening only to free music is like having the free possibility to satisfy yourself with thousends of different free sexual acts. |
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Basilisk
IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Oct 28, 2008 23:36
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We're getting into another topic here... but in terms of alternate ideas to the standard model of manufacturing a CD and then selling it, here's another way of looking at things...
My experience is that people are accustomed to different modes of exchange depending on the medium of interaction. People are more accustomed to getting everything for free on the Internet whereas they might be more open to purchasing physical media in person, particularly if the release is somehow related to the event they are attending.
The way I operate my label reflects this "natural preference" of the marketplace. I'd say our biggest success so far has been the debut album from Ekoplex, released August 12th. Since then it has been downloaded 11,000 times and resulted in several gigs for the artist. We have also sold about 160 copies of the CD at various parties--not a large number, but pretty good for a release that we freely give away in CD-quality audio on the Ektoplazm web site, and certainly in excess of the 25 to 50 CDs some labels are reputedly selling!
This is what I mean by "fresh thinking" about these old problems that continue to come up in this business.
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Wizack Twizack
Wizack Twizack
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Posted : Oct 29, 2008 00:40
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On 2008-10-28 14:22, Remy [POF] wrote:
I was also talking with a metal producer a couple of weeks ago, he told me that he has a band that got there fans to pay for the CD before it is produced. They put up a paypal service and they had about 500fans that donated each 25e so they gained more then 12000e, and that was currently paying their studio sessions and was also going to pay the design for the cover, pressing and shipping of the cd and dvd.
Of course you need a serious fan base to be able to do something like this, and maybe it's not a good solution for a psytrance project but i thought the idea was cool..
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Thats a very cool idea!
bOm..
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Remy [POF]
Principles Of Flight
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Posted : Oct 29, 2008 00:54
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yeah it is a good idea, but you gotta have some real hardcore fans to give you 25e before you've even lay one note on the keybord.
but in the end i think it's a more revarding for them, they actually feel like they where part making the stuff happen.
And another good thing is that you can plan your budget to how much money you actually got in.
And also, if you ship only to your "true fans" and don't pass by a distributor, there is less chance a release group will end up with it. I think the true fans are less likely to give something that was handed to them with trust and care by the artists themselfs... or maybe not.. don't know, anyway it's a concept to meditate on. On 2011-03-08 23:13, moki wrote:
listening only to free music is like having the free possibility to satisfy yourself with thousends of different free sexual acts. |
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Wizack Twizack
Wizack Twizack
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Posted : Oct 29, 2008 01:14
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On 2008-10-29 00:54, Remy [POF] wrote:
but in the end i think it's a more revarding for them, they actually feel like they where part making the stuff happen.
And another good thing is that you can plan your budget to how much money you actually got in.
it's a concept to meditate on.
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yea for sure. If that would be possible the guys who payed in advance would for sure get someting extra for that.
Now, where is the true hardcore fans in this scene? 
bOm..
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saintcarl
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Posted : Oct 29, 2008 02:13
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On 2008-10-29 00:54, Remy [POF] wrote:
yeah it is a good idea, but you gotta have some real hardcore fans to give you 25e before you've even lay one note on the keybord.
but in the end i think it's a more revarding for them, they actually feel like they where part making the stuff happen.
And another good thing is that you can plan your budget to how much money you actually got in.
And also, if you ship only to your "true fans" and don't pass by a distributor, there is less chance a release group will end up with it. I think the true fans are less likely to give something that was handed to them with trust and care by the artists themselfs... or maybe not.. don't know, anyway it's a concept to meditate on.
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Wow this would reduce the number of release's greatly.
But even better just like now if you really believe in yourself and your music you could finance yourself even take out a loan and work. Kinda like going to college as investment in your future lifestyle.
Sooooo on a lighter note - time for the list to start?
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Remy [POF]
Principles Of Flight
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Posted : Oct 29, 2008 02:21
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On 2008-10-29 01:14, Wizack Twizack wrote:
Now, where is the true hardcore fans in this scene?
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yeah there is the problem 
On 2011-03-08 23:13, moki wrote:
listening only to free music is like having the free possibility to satisfy yourself with thousends of different free sexual acts. |
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Adigroovy
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Oct 29, 2008 10:19
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Now, where is the true hardcore fans in this scene?
bOm..
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Maybe there are not many but there are
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goa-ganges
IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Oct 30, 2008 04:13
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AC/DC new album reached #1 in 25 countries, sold more than 800.000 in US alone.
Thatīs metal. And why they sell so much? I guess itīs good. Me, after years away from rock I am returning to it.
Now seriously, I would never pay a psy artist new album in advance. Why? simply because all my favorite artists just get worse and worse as time goes by. I was a huge fan of X-Dream, The Delta, Astral Projection and all the gods of trance. But I just canīt bring myself to listen - let alone buy - their last releases.
To my dismay this week I came to listen Chakraīs last album. My godness! I just canīt believe that that piece of cheese is from one of the best psy producers ever! Fluffy, pop, poor!
No wonder psy canīt sell. Who wants to buy bad music?
If you want to sell, and get paid, write good music.
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Ascension
IsraTrance Full Member
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Posted : Oct 31, 2008 22:19
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On 2008-10-29 01:14, Wizack Twizack wrote:
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On 2008-10-29 00:54, Remy [POF] wrote:
but in the end i think it's a more revarding for them, they actually feel like they where part making the stuff happen.
And another good thing is that you can plan your budget to how much money you actually got in.
it's a concept to meditate on.
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yea for sure. If that would be possible the guys who payed in advance would for sure get someting extra for that.
Now, where is the true hardcore fans in this scene?
bOm..
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I'll do it for your next one if it's anything like Dead End 
http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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Wizack Twizack
Wizack Twizack
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Posted : Nov 3, 2008 20:37
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d1m1tr1
Dark Elf
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Posted : Nov 4, 2008 09:27
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bring it on, i have to do some aDDs  hehe
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Crying Orc Project
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Nov 6, 2008 09:05
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Yup, me too. |
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insane
Silent Horror
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Posted : Nov 17, 2008 15:24
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count me in - fedup with this bulshit , words a word, and has to be kept..
arent artist also Hardcore fans of this scene? we;r contributing to our level best .. expecting the least that can b offered.. for some cases - where its necessary - give for free..
but when a label promises, it has to go with it..
2nd week of december, i will add a name - if necessary.
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NEMESIS - DEVILSMIND RECORDS - 2007
PATTERNS EP - DEVILSMIND RECORDS _ 2009
SEANCE - DEVILSMIND RECORDS - 2011
PATTERNS II EP - DEVILSMIND RECORDS _ 2013 |
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