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laaarge peaks,how to get rid?

PsyGalaXy
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Posted : Feb 2, 2011 15:46
A little snippet of the sound processed with all of the above (it still peaks)
just to not talking about fried air

http://www.sendspace.com/file/jdgj45

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Shiranui
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Posted : Feb 2, 2011 18:55
Why get rid of the peaks?
PsyGalaXy
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Posted : Feb 2, 2011 20:00
Quote:

On 2011-02-02 18:55, Shiranui wrote:
Why get rid of the peaks?



to avoid having the paeking sounds distorted and liveless wheen mastered           http://mystic-sound.com/releases/ioon-cosmic-downtempo-9314-oclock/
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Shiranui
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Posted : Feb 2, 2011 20:00
if your mastering engineer does that then they suck, get a new mastering engineer
PsyGalaXy
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Posted : Feb 2, 2011 20:07
it's not a mastering engineer strictly matter; look at the wave i posted in 2nd reply, it's way much higher
than the rest           http://mystic-sound.com/releases/ioon-cosmic-downtempo-9314-oclock/
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Shiranui
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Posted : Feb 2, 2011 20:24
that looks fine to me

does it sound okay when you play it back? that's really all that matters
daark
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Posted : Feb 2, 2011 20:28
compressor or limiter usualy works
maybe desser?

what makes the peak? if its a sound in a track lower the volume knob          http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
Wierd shit happens :)
Shiranui
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Posted : Feb 2, 2011 20:58
Yeah, having peaks is a problem if you want to push the track up into the max volume, but why do that? Haven't we all learned that having your track be max volume destroys the dynamics?
-=Mandari=-
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Posted : Feb 4, 2011 10:51
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On 2011-02-02 18:55, Shiranui wrote:
Why get rid of the peaks?



+1 !!!

try to mute the master.....

ok, bad joke. but really, why want to get rid of that if it even doesnt disturb you??? is it important to you to stink up with pro material or is the intention to keep your stuff as close to the original possible? i mean the decision to be made is quite easy, do you want it to sound like Bach or Rammstein?? follower or trendsetter ??
imo theres no need to get rid of "peaks" because your whole track peaks for sure dude, and imao this is only good if theres no digital clipping causing undesired distortion, everything should be fine. if you dont like the difference and i got you wrong on that, then iŽd say leave it to the mastering engineer. he will be better equipped with machines and brains to solve your issues
according to your comp way, maybe try different. set up comp of your choice with threshold catching up only the peaks and ratio according to desired gain reduction, smoothout knee, pretty fast attack, smooth release. you shouldnt need that 10:1 ratio imo, this could be the reason why you didnt like the result. try like 3:1 or less playing some with ratio and threshold you should get your results pretty fast n easy without hearing anything of its work, sure slightly depending on your comp and sure env. settings try different ones, not all of them work smooth on the sum causing good results.

anyways, iŽd leave that to the engineer or leave nothing to him and do everything myself, cause most times you will not get a well experienced engineer with decent equipment and more decent room for the money you got. it might pay off to learn about mastering, even if its a bunch of time needed.

cheers

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Posted : Feb 17, 2011 09:27
Both compression and limiting is good)))
If you work in Cubase or Nuendo, there is a pencil and you may write a line down on a wav sample in the peak place...           music preview/pics/bio/booking:
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PsyGalaXy
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Posted : Feb 18, 2011 18:49
Quote:

On 2011-02-04 10:51, -=Mandari=- wrote:

+1 !!!

try to mute the master.....

ok, bad joke. but really, why want to get rid of that if it even doesnt disturb you??? is it important to you to stink up with pro material or is the intention to keep your stuff as close to the original possible? i mean the decision to be made is quite easy, do you want it to sound like Bach or Rammstein?? follower or trendsetter ??
imo theres no need to get rid of "peaks" because your whole track peaks for sure dude, and imao this is only good if theres no digital clipping causing undesired distortion, everything should be fine. if you dont like the difference and i got you wrong on that, then iŽd say leave it to the mastering engineer. he will be better equipped with machines and brains to solve your issues
according to your comp way, maybe try different. set up comp of your choice with threshold catching up only the peaks and ratio according to desired gain reduction, smoothout knee, pretty fast attack, smooth release. you shouldnt need that 10:1 ratio imo, this could be the reason why you didnt like the result. try like 3:1 or less playing some with ratio and threshold you should get your results pretty fast n easy without hearing anything of its work, sure slightly depending on your comp and sure env. settings try different ones, not all of them work smooth on the sum causing good results.

anyways, iŽd leave that to the engineer or leave nothing to him and do everything myself, cause most times you will not get a well experienced engineer with decent equipment and more decent room for the money you got. it might pay off to learn about mastering, even if its a bunch of time needed.

cheers





Dude, i read your pot many times, maybe something was misunterstant and my english is somethimes dumb for shure eheh

I mean, let's say the whole tracks peaks -6db , what if only one sound peaks@ -2 -3 ?
As much as i kill peaks i kill the liveness of sounds above
i've realy used all of my arsenal got me available
-sweet compressors, hard compressors/ multiband comp
-manually turn down all peaks
-extreme compressor killing + parallel compression
-tapehead (free and good)
-sidechain all other elements when this one come in

As far as i go kill the peaks the sounds floating with others in a deadly mud
they gotta be stand a little higher but not so dooong
i don't surrender, never, for a time i catched the exact sound i like i'll leave it in his place even if i got to edit frame by frame

there's an example here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/jdgj45           http://mystic-sound.com/releases/ioon-cosmic-downtempo-9314-oclock/
FREE DOWNLOAD EKTO http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/ioon-the-ioonfinite-loop
https://spiritedrecords.bandcamp.com/album/times-of-peace-2
https://soundcloud.com/opalmoonproj
Oni Katsu
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Posted : Feb 18, 2011 20:41
DISTORT THAT SHIT AND FLATTEN THE DYNAMIC RANGE UNTILL IT DIES            http://soundcloud.com/li-fe

I said I like it dirty, not muddy.
minus
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Posted : Feb 19, 2011 00:47
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On 2011-01-30 02:38, antidentity wrote:
you could always splice out the parts that are too loud and put them on a separate channel that is set at a lower level



antidentity is right. since you cannot go back to the source, so only thing you can do is reduce the peaks on the wave file itself. first what are u runing? cubase? abelton? logic? fl/ what? .. in cubase you can simply double click on the wavefile,and under Hitpoints,you increase sensitivy to around 30% so it will read all the various individual sounds in the loop, and then you click create slices, which will split the loop into individual sounds, and then you can reduce the volumes of individual peak hit points , getting rid of those unwanted peaks within the loop. watch this video at exactly 6:00 minutes onward for the exact thing i said and watch how its done, but its for cubase 5.





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PoM
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Posted : Feb 19, 2011 04:39
you shouldn t have to deal with stuff like this ,big peaks , frequency clash and all this are often cause of mixing and arrangment mistake , i have to deal with this mostly on bad mixs, when it s good there is no problem like this to fix.
insteed of trying to reduce big peaks maybe try to avoid them by looking at the cause and fix or minmize it there if it s really a problem .

also if you have peaks and it sound great then don t bother, what you ear is the only thing that matter , when it sound right most of the time it will look fine too anyway.
Soundmagus
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Posted : Feb 20, 2011 02:18
Yup you should be looking at source material to remove peak information and/or re-record the original sound.

As this is not possible i am pretty sure you could deal with this peak using Pro-C compressor from Fabfilter a sit gives you excellent visual information for controlling peaks and is very transparent.

You could also try M/S processing.

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