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ess765
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Posted : Apr 19, 2007 19:44
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I ve added 2Gb of ram to my previous 1Gb of Kingston memory. So now I imagine that 3Gb could only help....
But every time I turn Kontakt on into a track, and try to load a sample to it, windows gives the warn "physical memory is getting low, loading more samples might cause problems".
The things is that I used to have projects with 5 or more kontakt units and this had never happened.
Now even if I begin a new project and add a kontakt as first instrument, this warn suddenly appears. I m sure there might be some relationship with my new memory added, cause when I only had 1Gb it handled Kontakt pretty much easily. BTW, the ram memory added is exactly the same brand and model (the only difference is that at first it was 2x 512 dimms and now I added 2 x 1Gb dimms).
Anyone here has any clue of what might be going on??
Thanks.
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diskonekt
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Posted : Apr 19, 2007 23:02
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Hey man, windows xp by default don't allocate more than 2 gigs of memory to any single procedure and not more than 4gigs in total for all the system needs. In fact using more than 2GB seems to be causing trouble to the system in some cases and that could be the thing with kontakt too. Remove 1gb, run kontakt and see how it goes. You can check at the link below for more ino/possible solutions ?
Cheers!
http://members.shaw.ca/bsanders/WindowsGeneralWeb/RAMVirtualMemoryPageFileEtc.htm
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Pythagoraz
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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 02:30
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ess765
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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 03:46
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age_of_panic ,
I m not too expert to computers...can you translate that to me? I can t understand why can t install up to 4Gb int my asus motherboard dual channel setting and can t use more than 2Gb...that s so weird...
Pythagoraz Denmark , I ll check it out but one of my *0Gb hard disc should have at least 5Gb free....
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psylevation
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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 04:57
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over on the Cubase.net forums, someone was talking about a hack that can allow you to use up to 3gigs of ram with Windows XP, you'll have to search for it, I think it might be in the Cubase 4 forum.
Maybe you should also check make sure your pagefile is big enough as well, just press windows key + pause/break and go to advanced tab, then click performance and the advanced tab in there I think, should be in there somewhere.
Good luck 
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ess765
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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 06:02
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Psyelevation,
so should I really believe that there s no point in buying a 3 or 4 Gb ram memory pc once window won t work properly? Is that it? If it is I m feeling a fool here....
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ess765
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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 06:03
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Psyelevation,
so should I really believe that there s no point in buying a 3 or 4 Gb ram memory pc once window won t work properly? Is that it? If it is I m feeling a fool here....
Ess765 (aka Physical Absence)
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ess765
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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 06:05
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Psyelevation,
so should I really believe that there s no point in buying a 3 or 4 Gb ram memory pc once window won t work properly? Is that it? If it is I m feeling a fool here....
The funny thing is that other instruments are running nicely, only happen to kontakt so far. I tried the ableton live sampler and its also fine...so weird
Ess765 (aka Physical Absence)
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ess765
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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 06:05
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Psyelevation,
so should I really believe that there s no point in buying a 3 or 4 Gb ram memory pc once window won t work properly? Is that it? If it is I m feeling a fool here....
The funny thing is that other instruments are running nicely, only happen to kontakt so far. I tried the ableton live sampler and its also fine...so weird
Ess765 (aka Physical Absence)
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mk47
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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 07:50
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On 2007-04-20 06:05, ess765 wrote:
Psyelevation,
so should I really believe that there s no point in buying a 3 or 4 Gb ram memory pc once window won t work properly? Is that it? If it is I m feeling a fool here....
The funny thing is that other instruments are running nicely, only happen to kontakt so far. I tried the ableton live sampler and its also fine...so weird
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 14:13
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windows and any 32bit operating systems (also mac osx) can not adress more than 4GB of RAM
See wikipedia:
"Windows XP 32-bit is limited to a total of 4 GB, which is, by default, equally divided between Kernel and application usage. Using the /3GB switch in the boot.ini file forces Windows to limit the kernel to the upper 1GB and provides up to 3GB for applications. Windows XP x64 can support much more memory"
There is also the talk about that "hack" which can be used.
Anyway. Which version of kontakt do you use? 1.5 works very well with "DFD" direct from disk, so doesn't need memory anyway, since it streams from the disk.
The version 2 of kontakt is a whole piece of shit, since it did terrible things with memory and was completely unusable with big libraries, since DFD didn't work properly.
I went back to 1.5 I never tried the updates of kontakt 2. maybe it's working now...
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ess765
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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 16:09
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subconsciousmind,
don t you have 4Gb of ram at your pc?? Have you ever had problems like these?
I use kontakt 1. I ll check it out to see how much free hard disc space I ve got left.
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Apr 20, 2007 17:10
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Hi,
No I have 2 GB and I'm perfecly fine.
I have a kontakt patch for 1.5 (with DFD extension - you NEED this)
for my liveact. All the samples are over 5GB in size (about 50 loops at 16 stereotracks with 16 bars in 24bit.)
When I load the patch with DFD enabled for it it uses like 100MB of memory.
you can define how much from the start of the sample should be in memory - to guarantee smooth playback and handle memory usage.
if many samples are triggered at the same time it kind of demands a lot from the HDrive, so its better to have a long "nose" from the sample in the memory, which at the same time obviously uses more of the memory.
ByTheWay This 5GB patch I run on my 2GHz centrino notebook with 1GB Ram and a slow 5400Rpm harddisk.
Every 16 bars I trigger 16 24Bit StereoTracks simultaniously! (32voices so to speak). diskusage jumps to 40% for a moment, then stays at 5%.
With lower latencies it goes up to 100% at the moment of triggering.
I think this is quite an extreme example. when using normal instruments in samplers you rarly go up to 32voices, and even if you don't trigger them all at the same time. Just to show, that a lot is possible with kontakt 1.5, direct from disk and even relatively slow hardware.
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