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UnderTow
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Posted : Apr 2, 2005 13:20
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On 2005-04-02 02:16, tokolosh wrote:
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On 2005-04-01 12:39, orik wrote:
you see...as far as i understood,
part of the reason that psytrance has its fealing, is the fact that it is 4/4
rythem, wich genarates the alpha waves in your brain, wich are the same wave types you
have when your dreaming....so puting any other beat would end up in a different reaction than you have for the 4/4 rythm...
wich is probalbly the reason its not used alot...
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Disagree alpha waves are produce from frequencies between 8hz - 12hz
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145BPM * 4 (Number of kick/bassline notes per beat) = 580 cycles per minute = 9.667 cycles per second. Right in the middle of the alpha waves frequencies. 
I don't know if this has any real effect on the brain but the frequencies are certainly right. (Actually they are right from 120 BPM to 180 BPM).
UnderTow
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orik
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Posted : Apr 2, 2005 17:22
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nice one!
this became a much more interesting thread
than "how kindzadza does hes bassline"
in my opinion...
ill have to read more about it though and
see whats going on with the whole sound waves
brain waves thing.
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talolard
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Posted : Apr 2, 2005 18:27
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more from wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_waves
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One method for attempting to entrain EEG rhythms is through auditory prompting. Some research indicates that computer programs that generate sounds at various frequencies are able to stimulate the brain and alter the brain's frequency via an audio stimulus [6] (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=9423966&dopt=Citation). Scientists have generated research supporting [7] (http://www.isnr.org) and refuting these claims (Le Scouranec et al 2001).
For example, if a person is in beta stage (highly alert) and an auditory stimulus of 10 Hz is applied to his or her brain for some time, the brain frequency is supposed to change towards the applied stimulus. It is claimed that the effect will be relaxing to the person. This phenomenon is referred to as the frequency following response. This process is purported to work more efficiently if the stimulus applied to the brain begins at the brain's current frequency, then sweeps to the desired frequency.
To stimulate the brain effectively with audio, binaural beat frequencies may be used, according to the manufacturers, since the ears cannot hear sounds low enough to be useful for brain stimulation. If the left ear is presented with a steady tone of 500 Hz (21 cents sharp of B4) and the right ear a steady tone of 510 Hz (44 cents flat of C5), these two tones combine in the brain. It is claimed that the difference, 10 Hz, is perceived by the brain and is an effective stimulus for brainwave entrainment.
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i found a program that does this.
it sounsd like very annoying looped shit synths. nothing i'd want in a track.
http://www.bwgen.com/download.htm
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orik
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Posted : Apr 3, 2005 19:34
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thanx talolard
interesting links!
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tokolosh
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Posted : Apr 5, 2005 22:30
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tokolosh
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Posted : Apr 5, 2005 22:37
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On 2005-04-02 13:20, UnderTow wrote:
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On 2005-04-02 02:16, tokolosh wrote:
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On 2005-04-01 12:39, orik wrote:
you see...as far as i understood,
part of the reason that psytrance has its fealing, is the fact that it is 4/4
rythem, wich genarates the alpha waves in your brain, wich are the same wave types you
have when your dreaming....so puting any other beat would end up in a different reaction than you have for the 4/4 rythm...
wich is probalbly the reason its not used alot...
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Disagree alpha waves are produce from frequencies between 8hz - 12hz
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145BPM * 4 (Number of kick/bassline notes per beat) = 580 cycles per minute = 9.667 cycles per second. Right in the middle of the alpha waves frequencies.
I don't know if this has any real effect on the brain but the frequencies are certainly right. (Actually they are right from 120 BPM to 180 BPM).
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Interesting point mate .three month ago I wrote a very very very long university project about brain waves and never thought about the subject in this way ,I will find out what my teacher has to say about this and let you know |
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Ronaron303
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Posted : Apr 6, 2005 07:41
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On 2005-04-01 12:39, orik wrote:
you see...as far as i understood,
part of the reason that psytrance has its fealing, is the fact that it is 4/4
rythem, wich genarates the alpha waves in your brain, wich are the same wave types you
have when your dreaming....so puting any other beat would end up in a different reaction than you have for the 4/4 rythm...
wich is probalbly the reason its not used alot...
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Orik , you not right.
I think the reason you gave ,have nothing to deal with the fact ,that one of the reasons that psytrance have that fealing,because it 4/4! |
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orik
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Posted : Apr 6, 2005 16:52
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TOKOLOSH-yes please do that mate! it would be interesting to hear...
RONARON303- sure, you may be right,
but i was listenning to some
native drum beats of real shamanic rituals, were the cround was dancing
in a very...how to say it, trancy way, crazy
dance movments like in a trance, and it was
also 4/4...made me even more curiouse abou it... |
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Ronaron303
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Posted : Apr 6, 2005 21:38
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On 2005-04-06 16:52, orik wrote:
but i was listenning to some
native drum beats of real shamanic rituals, were the cround was dancing
in a very...how to say it, trancy way, crazy
dance movments like in a trance, and it was
also 4/4...made me even more curiouse abou it...
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,,Yes you right about shamans ,their rituals are 4/4 signature.But...thats why they call their rituals ,dance rituals ,and not other kinds of.They create a hypnothic atmosphere with the rythm ,which in 4/4 signature,why 4/4?,
as symple music theory explains :4/4 its a punctir rythm which creates mechanical drive and imagination of movements that not going to stop,it used allot in marsh,and for shure in dance.
And "crazy dance movements" ,they probably took peyotes or mushrooms ,shamans used drugs every time, with rituals and give them to the people for better understanding of mood by rituals.
Well,i think 4/4 signature dont have more than 1 meaning for psytrance and that meaning is dance signature ,otherwise ill start to think that Breatny Spears have same effect as psytrance and shamanic rituals,just because it 4/4.
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