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Kindzaza Bassline ?
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SimpsoN
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Posted : Mar 30, 2005 09:51
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if some one heard kindzaza tracks and other artists all so using this bassline
like at the track whats in the box
in 3:43 kindzaza changing the bass line
i wonderd just how can i do the same beat ? |
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diskonekt
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Posted : Mar 30, 2005 13:46
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The beat changes from 4/4 to 3/4 that's how you do it 
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SimpsoN
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Posted : Mar 30, 2005 14:30
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Thanks alot dude  |
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fregle
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Posted : Mar 31, 2005 13:27
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prolly triplets in 4/4, not 3/4... Otherwise i really want to hear that song i have only very few psytrance songs that aren't 4/4, and they're from finland (ofcourse). Also, with the tools we use it's not very easy to just change the timestamp midsong.... never tried it in cubase anyway, and fruity doesn't know anything else but 4/4... |
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orik
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Posted : Mar 31, 2005 14:21
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yep!
TRIPPLETS!
change in the grid cound to tripplets,
or quantize the whole part youve selected to tripplets, change the quantize values untill
it sits properly...
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EYB
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Posted : Mar 31, 2005 14:53
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On 2005-03-31 13:27, FREGLE wrote:
prolly triplets in 4/4, not 3/4... Otherwise i really want to hear that song i have only very few psytrance songs that aren't 4/4, and they're from finland (ofcourse). Also, with the tools we use it's not very easy to just change the timestamp midsong.... never tried it in cubase anyway, and fruity doesn't know anything else but 4/4...
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For changing the timestamp in fruity loops open the options dialog -> Select Project Settings (leftside down corner) -> Select General -> set timestamp u need
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fregle
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Posted : Mar 31, 2005 18:43
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goddamned!! i've been using that proggie since version 2, and i didn't know that, kick me... |
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diskonekt
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Posted : Apr 1, 2005 00:00
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On 2005-03-31 13:27, FREGLE wrote:
prolly triplets in 4/4, not 3/4... Otherwise i really want to hear that song
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indeedit's triplets pardon me |
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UnderTow
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Posted : Apr 1, 2005 00:15
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On 2005-03-31 13:27, FREGLE wrote:
i have only very few psytrance songs that aren't 4/4, and they're from finland (ofcourse).
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Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't KoxBox - Lunar Bin use a combination of 4/4 and 3/4 to form a kind of 7/8 rythm in part of the track? But yeah, it is very rare.
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orik
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Posted : Apr 1, 2005 12:39
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you see...as far as i understood,
part of the reason that psytrance has its fealing, is the fact that it is 4/4
rythem, wich genarates the alpha waves in your brain, wich are the same wave types you
have when your dreaming....so puting any other beat would end up in a different reaction than you have for the 4/4 rythm...
wich is probalbly the reason its not used alot... |
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fregle
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Posted : Apr 1, 2005 15:40
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indeed, but psytrance is meant to be psychedelic, and putting people on the wrong foot (literally when it comes to dancing) with a strange timecode the music becomes more psychedelic... i think...
indeed, it's not only in finland that they do this... i was making a generalisation love koxbox btw |
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tokolosh
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Posted : Apr 2, 2005 02:16
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On 2005-04-01 12:39, orik wrote:
you see...as far as i understood,
part of the reason that psytrance has its fealing, is the fact that it is 4/4
rythem, wich genarates the alpha waves in your brain, wich are the same wave types you
have when your dreaming....so puting any other beat would end up in a different reaction than you have for the 4/4 rythm...
wich is probalbly the reason its not used alot...
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Disagree alpha waves are produce from frequencies between 8hz - 12hz |
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orik
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Posted : Apr 2, 2005 02:44
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talolard
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Posted : Apr 2, 2005 03:48
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orik and in general,
except for the frequencies of beta waves, all of the frequencies mentioned in the article are not perceptibl by the human ear (whcih hears only sounds from >20hz).
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from wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hertz )
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
The hertz (symbol Hz) is the SI unit of frequency. It is named in honour of the German physicist Heinrich Rudolf Hertz who made some important contributions to science in the field of electromagnetism.
One hertz simply means "one per second"; 100 Hz means "one hundred per second", and so on. The unit may be applied to any periodic event – for example, a clock might be said to tick at 1 Hz.
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so if 1 hz is one cycle per second, alpha waves would be 8 to 12 cycles per second. to mimic an alpha wave you would need to play cycle (or loop?) of between 8 cycles multiplies by 60 seconds = 480 cycles per minute to 12 cyles multiplied by 60 seconds = 720 cycles per minute
so if the frequencies are to low to be heard by the human ear but to high to be the number of times a loop repeates in a minute, what does it represent.
maybe the number of steps?
480/16 (16 being the number of steps in a 4/4 loop) = 30
720/16= 45
sin(30)=.5
tan(45)= 1 (not elevant to the rest)
.5 *2= 1
which shows a matematical correlation between sin waves and alpha waves and more specifically why the standard intro is 32 steps long (there was a discussion of this, do to heavy intoxication i couldnt find it).
all in all, this is a bit confusing, but it seems that if there are implications certain frequencies on the mind, they stem from arranging the track itself, its rythm AND NOT a particular samples frequency.
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talolard
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Posted : Apr 2, 2005 04:20
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instead of tan(45) we could substitute cos(45)*cos(45) to reach .5
i'm to drunk to think of any implications if any exist at all.
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