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psycho-italiano
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Posted : Feb 26, 2009 13:48:04
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Hello friends ,
Maybe it will sound funny to some of you but for me its very critical what you are going to read!
Ive tried to disconnect from trance parties and get relaxed but I realized that I cant , this infection is too much in my blood , I am so addicted to it…
but I could have a long break from parties since 2 years.
Before 2 years I was at a Nature party in Israel and that was the last one for me till now , coz back then I felt too old ….
almost 90% of the crowd were babies…..maybe 14 – 16 years old…. I mean , come on , why the hell its like that?
we all know that those kind of parties need adult minds coz of the rituals and psychedelic circles/energies that happens….that for sure babies cant handle.
I dont have any problem with kids in normal life , but in psytrance parties it kills me….they don’t know what energy is…..
when you dance the spiritual dance , what they do is watching you and think: why the hell you dance so weird and play with your hands………so due to that I stopped going to this parties.
Today its worse , coz 2 years passed…..back then I was 24 , now iam 26 ….. so if before I felt so bad like that , then how would I today feel If I go again…… I cant take the resk!
Anyway , Ive watched a lot of new youtube nature parties in my current country (Israel) and I see that the parties I like to be in (music style/linup) are loaded of kids…….
and if there is a party I found without kids then the music is not my taste…
I would know from all of you people from deferent countries around the globe , is it happening also in your countries like that? Are the crowd built from a lot of babies (14 – 16 years old)…? Or its in Israel only….
For sure there are some exceptions in parties here in my age but they are very few….
Tell me please…….if that’s the situation in your country too then I will live with the fact that iam 26 old grandfather and shouldn’t go again to nature parties…..
Tomorrow for example there is a dream linup nature party in Israel that I wish to be in , but that is the same production that I was in before 2 years and killed my attraction to this kind of parties due the numerous number of kids that destroyed the vibe and let me feel super old….
And to all babies that read this , don’t feel offended by what I said, I didn’t mean to hurt any of you , and not personally for sure….
i simply ask for statistics in order to find parties that fit my age to feel comfortable … maybe I have low self confidence to be the oldest in party , but let it be….
i would like to have people in my age and older…but not too young….
Peace!
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gutter
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Posted : Feb 26, 2009 14:00
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hehe same here, they take ecstacy too you know, they really buy and eat that shit ..
id say grab yourself a drop and scare the hell out of them with your dancing,, dont care at all, go for yourself 
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Ellon
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Posted : Feb 26, 2009 14:01
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Feb 26, 2009 14:03
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i am good above 30 and long journey of great parties behind me.
Id love to celebrate a real goa or real psychedelia party but there arent any anymore at least for the last 4 years and at least in events titled as psychedelic in connection with trance and atleast in hamburg -for sure.
The music has changed dramaticaly and the new generation likes more progressiveness wich I excluded more or less in my psycedelic liking.
Electro is played on psycedelic trance events which I also excluded from my personal psychedelia liking.
Not from hearing someday but from partying its not gettin me in drive like some good and dedicated psyco disco.
And the old prheak spirits have like all disappeared ,there were seriously other times where people from all ages where partying to one crazy psycedelic plur wave's' .
I see more beers than joints in the young hands etc.
Well its good there are plenty of great music out but I dont see great names on flyers for some parties in hamburg and rather seldom at all here in germany.
Thats my subjective personal view.I hope I havent hurt anyones feelings dignity or whatever...and again- I have tons of good prog at home but when my spirits want to party it wants to fly.
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Nectarios
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Posted : Feb 26, 2009 15:25
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On 2009-02-26 13:48:04, psycho-italiano wrote:
almost 90% of the crowd were babies..maybe 14 16 years old. I mean , come on , why the hell its like that?
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Who was playing?
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Forest dreams
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Posted : Feb 26, 2009 15:31
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On 2009-02-26 14:01, Ellon wrote:
Im cool with 16teenyearold people around me...i was also once 16teen and felt good to be surrounded by older people.
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+1
Whats age got to do with all this anyway.. its great that there are a heap of the younger generation getting involved.. will only give this a new direction.
I was about 22 when i went for my first party, and i still behaved like the 16 year olds that we are talking about here. Whats memorable is that the older ones gave me such pleasing smiles that i never felt left out or not belonging at that time. And i think that's what i would want to do if i am in a party of this sort 
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Inner Demon
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Posted : Feb 26, 2009 15:51
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Call me old-fashioned but I'm not cool with 16-year olds around me at a party.
Personally I've never understood the inability of some to wait until they're 18. What's the damn hurry? You'll be able to party 'til your hair falls out later anyway - and you'll be more ready to enjoy it.
I think those who claim that age has nothing to do with it are ignorant. You don't get to vote when you're 14 because most people that age do not understand the issues well enough to make a sensible choice. But they're ready to handle an acid trip at a party? (let's not be naive, many will do drugs) I don't think so, and I don't understand why our scene should allow kids when regular clubs don't. Of course it could be argued that some kids are ready and some adults never will be but those are the exception, you need to draw the line somewhere and I think 18 is a good age.
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Ellon
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Posted : Feb 26, 2009 16:22
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On 2009-02-26 15:51, Inner Demon wrote:
Call me old-fashioned but I'm not cool with 16-year olds around me at a party.
Personally I've never understood the inability of some to wait until they're 18. What's the damn hurry? You'll be able to party 'til your hair falls out later anyway - and you'll be more ready to enjoy it.
I think those who claim that age has nothing to do with it are ignorant. You don't get to vote when you're 14 because most people that age do not understand the issues well enough to make a sensible choice. But they're ready to handle an acid trip at a party? (let's not be naive, many will do drugs) I don't think so, and I don't understand why our scene should allow kids when regular clubs don't. Of course it could be argued that some kids are ready and some adults never will be but those are the exception, you need to draw the line somewhere and I think 18 is a good age.
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Rules are something you teach not something you impose...closing doors IMHO is the wrong way. Much better if you behave as a guide instead of a judge...
Im sorry to say but it sounds you have a prejudice against something so natural as age...
Im also not cool to see a 16teen yearold fucked up on some E´s in a party but i dont believe "closing" the door is the way...
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Suntribal
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Posted : Feb 26, 2009 16:24
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avoid darkpsy parties and you will find some grownups around you  |
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gutter
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Posted : Feb 26, 2009 16:25
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dude thats so funny.. i caught the same scene happening in front of me when tristan was demolishing a warehouse around here a night, three kids were staring at me with wide open eyes probably wondering why did someone release me out of the bedlam, basically i saw them when i opened my eyes, sometime somehow aahaha so funny picture ...
agree with inner demon too,sometimes somethings are difficult to handle, needs to be more mature and experienced and be able to communicate not just freak out, though i love to see small kids at festivals with parents, its the feeling of life and alleviates me nicely
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almost_human KROX ( Phantasm Rec .)
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Posted : Feb 26, 2009 16:50
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Bro , Dance like nobody's watching ,,.., That will be Perfect as these days ,, Sit on your Space Jet & meet on the Other side of the Planet 
Boom Shankar !!!
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kin beat
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Posted : Feb 26, 2009 16:51
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this is a worlwide issue, however, I dont see it as my main concern now, I stopped going out to party outdoors for the same reasons about 3 years ago when I moved back from LA to GDL.
on 2006 I went to time and space party in DF, then a week after we went to the Equinoxio Party which are very famous in Guadalajara.
The difference between both parties was incredible, on DF the music and the location were superb, but, the chakas were stealing and robbing shit out of tents of dancers, a reason why there should always be one person inside the tent.... even when that meant missing any of the artist on the line up.
Now in Guadalajara there might not be big O chakas but we have the beggin´ rotten crew.
which get way fucked up and beg for anything from a cigarrette, a sip of your beer, a puff of your spliff or even a ride back from the party on your car, all sweting and dirty mofos.....
did i mention they are barely 14-16 years old E-tards???
Well, so that might be a reason why I found solace on hard pounding techno music!
still, enjoy way too much to get booked for a party where they ask me to play psytrance, as a duo along with fraka phil we try to play only psytrance that was released between 00-06 so even when is old, 95% of those tunes were never heard by the crowd because they never actually got to heard them.
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smorphelia8
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Posted : Feb 26, 2009 17:09
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too old at 26???
no way man. . ..
dont worry about the kids. .. they ll grow up...
give a pill to a 40 year old for the first time, and he ll behave just like those 16yo u r talking about . . .
mafia, poshy ppl, and 'trendy wanna hippies' bother me much much more
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shellbound
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Posted : Feb 26, 2009 17:44
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i just want to throw out a couple of random things this topic made me think of:
1. funny to read this considering how many people on here use "the years in the scene" as some authoritarian benchmark and everybody tries to out-oldschool everybody else. like, "i've been in this shit for 27 years. i'm only 23, but it all started when my daddy candy-flipped that one time. i was still in diapers in my first party. at my bar mitzvah, i mixed for 11 hours straight using nothing but 3 8-track players... so STFU, n00b"
2. not too long 13 was just about the right age to get married and bear children in many cultures across the world. the life expectancy changed a bit too. so it's all a relative thing.
3. it's funny how they determine what an "adult" is and what you are old enough to do. here in the US you can be old enough to get a gun and go die "for your country" or kill people, and still not be old enough to handle a beer.
4. age is a state of mind too. i know some very awesome teenagers. intelligent, responsible, courteous. i know even more dumb-asses in their 30s.
5. i can totally understand you feeling this way and i can't lie and say i've never felt this before. but. you (and i) still have a choice whether to be there or not. you also didn't say anything about the music. or your friends. there are so many different aspects that influence whether your experience is enjoyable or not. so even if i'm in this overall environment, but the music is good and i'm surrounded by my friends, i can still have a really good time. you still have control what to pay attention to and what to filter out. if you can't change your environment, you can still change your outlook. what's inside your head is just as responsible for your environment as what's out there. and if that's not possible, then you still have the freedom to go and do something somewhere else...
6... like getting together with 20 of your friends, renting a small generator. somebody brings decks. somebody brings food. and going away for a weekend. being older means you probably have a bit more resources (financial and otherwise) than all these kiddies and are able to pull something like this off.
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Elad
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Posted : Feb 26, 2009 17:53
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"if its too fast you are too old"
-kindzadza
i know many friends who are over 30 and still going atleast to 5-6 doofs a year. on is 40 y.o and diggin trance since 93 in goa... you wanna get his answer to your question? yes you are too old , but old is the mind not in age.
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