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Kaz
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Posted : Nov 20, 2007 14:02
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Cars are cool, definately. Car chases are awesome, and with more crashes, burning vehicles and deaths the better. I'm still waiting for the GTA movie where half the movie is running down people for fun, while escaping and blowing the crap out of law enforcement will leave something like 30 minutes for shooting down joggers and nearly 5 minutes for plot (gotta please everyone).
Witty conversation with highly quotable phrases are cool. Especially when it involves threats, trivia or porn. Talking - while I frown upon it in the average movie, can be made into the all-encompasing greatness that it could be (as a matter of fact Nick, you're going to have to work very hard just to stay alive), and sometimes may even be the entire point of the movie and still gain the holy "this-is-not-crap" dead-seal of approval by yours truely.
Tarantino has some wonderful movies in his record, I'll be the first to say. But Death Proof is a piece of crap. Let me say it again - a total piece of worthless, time-wasting garbage. I know, it has it's moments, but if the guy would be taking himself more seriously when making a film of this nature he'd be up his own ass to his shoulders. Sure, he already did the cheap mafioso bit (Pulp Fiction), the cheap Japanese slasher (Kill Bill), and I know cars are cool, and have their serious moments, but these are wattered down with wanton violence and pop-culture references - just like mixing vodka into your redbull to make it worthy (the more the merrier).
I watched this movie, hoping it would be half as good as Planet Terror (which qualifies as one of the best movies ever), and not expecting it to be nearly as awesome (how can you top off wanton slaughter and zombies? don't answer that, because you can't without a load of naked hot ladies, everyone knows that). But, since I'm just that great a guy, here's a few pointers for Death Proof 2:
1) Decapitating Kurt Russel in the first 2 minutes and replacing him with Wesley Snipes (who had just chopped off his head and is now pissing on it while drinking a beer), who then continues to beat the crap out of every other character in the movie. Wesley Snipes is the main man in a long list of main men (Bruce Lee, Chuck Norris, Arnold Governator, Van Damn He Doesn't Know How to Act, and Steven "slice your neck with a credit card" Seagal), and anything he does is awesome, while Kurt Russel is a whiny little bitch that should have gotten lynched by an angry mob the moment he did anything other than Stargate.
2) Attach a machine gun or two to the car, and whenever those annoying chicks start talking cut it short by a massacre at wherever they happen to be sitting. Better seen, not heard bitches. And nothing to cut out that useless patter like drowning it out with gunfire and explosions.
3) Excluding 25 minutes, this was a chick-flic and that is about as cool as Vanilla Ice. Making the lapdance scene 40 minutes long, and with the chick stripping while doing it - while the other chicks are making out, now that would immediately make this better. That was the only good scene in the movie (well, that and the first car crash), and it was too friggin' short.
4) Instead of killing hot chicks, running over old ladies on the side of the road, and then finishing it off with tossing explosives into an old couple's house, followed by the couple and their 15 pets running outside burning, the old people screaming and with arms flailing, only to be shot ib the kneecaps with the guns on the car and then beaten to a pulp by Wesley Snipes.
5) A cameo appearance of Optimus Prime, who talks about protecting the humans, and then turns into a truck and crashes into a missile silo which then explodes, sending debris flying into an oil-tanker which then spills oil all over and drowns all the wildlife, after which Prime heads to start blasting Kurt Russel's dead body until all that is left is a smoldering crater, in which the burning dogs are placed to be burried... animal cruelty is just not cool.
Well, on this positive feel-good note, I will carry on hoping that every movie will apply these tips in order to make it much better. Don't agree? Don't care. |
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Pavel
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Posted : Nov 20, 2007 17:32
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That's definitely sounds like a better plot than what I watched. Well actually I watched only the first 30 minutes and gave it up. Than I gave it another try and stopped even sooner. I think it's the first movie this year that I didn't watch till the end and just deleted it from the HD. Wait, there was also Transformers but it doesn't even count as a movie at all.
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J
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Posted : Nov 20, 2007 18:56
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Like kaz said I think it has its moments.
Good dialogues and well directed. And the actor are very well too.
Production level is good imo.
However all-in-one the movie is very bad.
But I had a good time watching it high. I laughed my ass off in some moments.
Btw: The lap-dance scene is very nice.
That girl reminded Angelina Jolie. And what an ass she has! 
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diskOtek
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Posted : Nov 20, 2007 22:11
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agree with peyote.
also i have to point out that the soundtrack is one of the best this year!simply great!
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Btros
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Posted : Nov 21, 2007 03:05
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Here’s the conclusion I came to about this movie (since I didn’t get it either, and I like his other movies): it’s strictly a girl movie. I mean, it’s a movie aimed directly at women. My girlfriend, who doesn’t care for typical romantic, sappy girl movies anyway, really liked Death Proof, while I of course thought Planet Terror kicked Death Proof’s ass. She said it was empowering for women to watch them turn the tables on the macho killer. It’s a bunch of tough chicks who won’t take any sh*t, blah blah blah. My point is, it was well acted and well directed, like all of Tarantino’s movies…just this one was not aimed at his usual audience of young men. I actually couldn’t stand the dialogue in this one though…usually his dialogue is very tight and funny…this movie was just lame. |
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DETOX
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Posted : Nov 21, 2007 03:16
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What people need to understand is that Tarantino never was and in my humble opinion will never be a truly great director/producer and allow me to make myself clear before you kill me using a slingshot.
Yes Tarantino is an original and innovative producer who most of the times comes up with very interesting scenarios and ideas and likes to mix together contradictory styles (like action and comedy or horror with comedy or real life movies with anime interventions and so on) but he is not a great movie maker as a whole and his movies although most of the times good and enjoyable will never be considered masterpieces and all time classics.
I mean his best film ever in my humble opinion,Reservoir Dogs,is i dare to say the least known film of his for some unknown reason that i really cant explain.People always talk about Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill and Sin City or even Jackie Brown but very rarely one knows or even mentions Reservoir Dogs.
For me he is a way overrated producer/director and movies like Pulp Fiction and Kill Bill are also way overrated.Pulp Fiction is not as good movie as most people say it is and i dare to say that the soundtrack of the movie is the major reason that made this movie well known.Kill Bill part one was very nice indeed but the second part was a total flop and big dissapointment.Sin City is nice to watch but i doubt many people will watch it a second or third time.
I spend my time watching Death Proof yesterday night and the movie is a total disgrace but somehow its rated more than 7/10 on IMDB simply because its Tarantino,this piece of trash deserves no more than 3/10 in any case.
To sum it up this guy will never ever be in the list of the top directors of our times and his companies marketing techniques are the reason that his movies are so well known.
Got no expectations from him and there is no reason i should have any.
His movies are enjoyable to watch especially in the cinema but thats all about it.
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