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Kids, animals and faces of meth
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Vermeee
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Dennis the menace
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Posted : Aug 10, 2011 11:20
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Why? Well it isn't really something that makes you go nuts on the dancefloor is it? Maybe its just me but i don't think opiates have any relation to trance music.
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kazuku
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From my experience its not so common, in the open at least. Psy festivals attract all kinds of people though, so obviously there will always be some people doing opiates, but I think it is generally frowned upon. I have come across some people who take unrealistic ammounts of acid (thousands of mics) and knock themselves out with opiates and sleeping pills if the ride gets too rough....
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kriz
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Posted : Aug 10, 2011 13:25
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Dennis the menace
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Posted : Aug 10, 2011 14:16
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On 2011-08-10 13:25, kriz wrote:
Alcohol is the strongest and worst drug anyway.
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+1 on that..
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MR VOMERS
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Posted : Aug 10, 2011 23:38
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On 2011-08-10 14:16, Dennis the menace wrote:
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On 2011-08-10 13:25, kriz wrote:
Alcohol is the strongest and worst drug anyway.
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+1 on that..
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randulon
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Posted : Aug 11, 2011 00:06
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Yeah, hell yeah...alcohol is soooo much worse than crack cocaine, heroin, crystal meth, most other types of speed...
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dreadieg
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Posted : Aug 11, 2011 09:40
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^ thank you.
i'm sorry, some of us have shit to lose if we get bagged with illegal drugs. now, i'd love to be all fucked up on acid or something, but sometimes a few beers or some whiskey are easier and more legal to come by. and i'm not going to get my ass hammered in prison if the event gets busted.
hate to say it, much as i love the psyches, booze is much easier for me to enjoy that some illegal shit.
of course, i have a life and a business to run….. so i may not actually fit the general trancer lifestyle.
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randulon
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Posted : Aug 11, 2011 18:44
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I love both and indulge in both, isn't that possible? I think a nice glass of wine tastes a lot better than a mouth full/nose full/back of the throat full of mdma/acid/coke/ketamine etc...
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Fometrius
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Posted : Aug 12, 2011 02:11
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Animals like dogs etc should definitely not be exposed to extremely loud music, and also not be running around without someones observation. If a animal is to be brought to a festival it need constant attention and observation and i also highly doubt that a music festival is a place suitable for animals at all, unless there would be some space only made for them with toys, caring people, food etc and "owners" ( family ) being there around them. What are they about to do when those who brought them there are dancing for hours and hours amongst thousand of other poeple ?
Being dihydrated , scared , confused, walking around aimlessly and greatly disturbed by the music, only wanting to get home ?
A dog with ear protection being close to their "owner" in a chill out place with a cup of water is perhaps something than can be viewed as something ok.But i doubt that most dogs enjoy this unfamiliar environment and people that music festivals exposes them to.
I found a page that sells ear protection articles for dogs, this is something people who bring them at music events should check out.
http://www.safeandsoundpets.com/page/page/2449970.htm
http://www.safeandsoundpets.com/indy.html
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vector_0
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Posted : Aug 12, 2011 04:03
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On 2011-08-10 14:16, Dennis the menace wrote:
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On 2011-08-10 13:25, kriz wrote:
Alcohol is the strongest and worst drug anyway.
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+1 on that..
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this is just plain ignorant. i'm not gonna post here saying that alcohol is great and there are no problems...but meth and heroin are way worse than alcohol. ghb and pcp are also possibly worse than alcohol. I'd way way way way rather be at or throw a party where everyone was drinking responsibly than a party where everyone was using meth...because its simply not possible to use meth responsibly. how about you compare someone who has 2 drinks every day for 2 years to someone who takes 1 dose of meth or heroin every day for two years and see whose in better shape physically and psychically
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kazuku
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Posted : Aug 12, 2011 12:02
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It is futile to argue which substance is ultimatly the worst. The reason I mentioned meth explicitly in this thread is because I have seen the short/long term effects in people and can confidently say that it is not a positve thing to have around as it only causes problems and grief. Toll on body and mind are unproportionally high. People I know turned into physical and mental wrecks, doing unspeakable things they would never do otherwise. "Casual use" is extremely dangerous and the threshold to addiction is very, very low.
It doesnt help to say which drug is worst, sure alcohol can be similarly dreadful if abused. Especially the hard stuff, there is a good reason spirits are called spirits.
I also drink too much at home (beer mostly) but when I come to psy-gatherings, it is somewhat of a "cleaning" process for me. Last festival I went I took a crate of beer and only drank like one or two because I always get into "healthy mode". Even if this is off-topic, psytrance/trance as a state has helped me in the past to stop smoking cigarettes totally and drinking alcohol for several months.
I dont go to psy festivals sooo often anymore, so when I do it is always a special experience. I understand all people are different and their motivations vary, some just want to get as wasted as possible, but for me psy is about awareness. Also towards my body. It reminds me that I can actually breathe deeply, and that it feels good Being in the fresh air, eating fruits in the sun...like a mellow holiday. Maybe Im just old. For me psytrance is definetly not about self destruction.
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Fometrius
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Posted : Aug 12, 2011 13:25
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On 2011-08-12 12:02, kazuku wrote:
Being in the fresh air, eating fruits in the sun...like a mellow holiday. Maybe Im just old. For me psytrance is definetly not about self destruction.
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+1
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Xamanist
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Posted : Aug 12, 2011 13:26
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Amen
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Ascension
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Posted : Aug 12, 2011 20:40
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