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Matrix
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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 02:23
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hello,
i have a question for you dear artists,
i know that most of you guys have a good quality kick drum samples which mostly you are not sharing, anyway i do want to know how those kicks becoming such a fat clean kick drums and does any of you guys making by yourselves a really high quality kicks?
now, whether you are creating them from scratch or editing made kicks, can you please instruct or direct me on how to create a really good quality kick from scratch or what effects/eq to apply to a made kick? - what frequencies are important to boost, what is the range etc.
i hope you got my think, i just want to have a real quality kicks- like yours-
ok- thanks alot
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Hagenith
Hagenith
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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 02:34
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use compressors for making your kick clean |
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Matrix
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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 03:00
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oh really, thanks
that's what i already know- i asked those here who trained in doing this and will share the knowledge- to use compressors is no new
thank you anyway |
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tribalizer
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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 03:17
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soulfood
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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 03:44
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I'm far from a professional in the psy scene but recently i made loads of sharp stabby sounds with pretty much every synth i have experimenting with low end thud and higher up clicky/squeaky/ glitchy sounds. Then I thought long and hard about how i want my kick to sound, then just built it. No compression, just eq! I think the bottom end was an ES 1 and then I think the only other sound i layered was from the stomper, which i then high passed.
Its damn satisfying making ya own kicks too. And once u have a nice kick that suites your style, your basslines sound infinately fatter aswell!
Experiment, experiment, experiment. Then do some more of the same!
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mk47
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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 11:14
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S.D6 (Yakir .B.)
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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 13:26
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i create my own kick...
take a look at the Infected Mushroom website, they have a tutorial that show's you how to make a kick at the Soundforge.... the secret for the kick to be fat is the frequency of the wav (usually 60 hz),
after you did what the tutorial say you have to compress is a lot to get the Kick at the start of the sample...
link to the tutorial
http://infected.co.il/futureCitySkin/pictures.php?parentCategory=Music%20Tutorials
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PoM
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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 13:59
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don t compress just to compress , it s all depends what sound you have and the result you want.
eq your kick and your bass,send them to a bus and eq again and compress , it s the relation with the bass who make killer kicks,alone it s sounds shit sometimes . |
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Hagenith
Hagenith
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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 14:38
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sometimes the EQ cant make the kick just as you like,i always use compressor... |
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texmex
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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 15:31
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I usually cut heavily between 200-500 hz or so to avoid boxiness with synthesized kicks.
Software I use mostly is microtonic, reaktor, waves plugs (comps, eq and maxxbass) and vintagewarmer.
Layering synthesized kicks with other (realistic or not) samples is useful too. For example get the initial click from some real sample and synthesize the rest.
And remember to trim the kick so that it doesn't interfere with the bassline too much.
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orange
Fat Data
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Posted : Apr 17, 2006 15:41
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On 2006-04-17 14:38, xochipilli® wrote:
sometimes the EQ cant make the kick just as you like,i always use compressor...
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do u sleep with compressors also?
a compressor will never do an eq's job dont confuse them!
a nice kick must be nice without a compressor addind compressor must add to the nice kick more punchiness and loudness!
but a bad kick it will be bad whatever compression u add !
a good use of eq and comp with a nice kick sample is the way to go!
orange
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Matrix
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Posted : Apr 23, 2006 15:33
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talking about compressors, how exactly do u compress a kick?
if i compress the kick it always missing bass frequencies - if the ratio is more the 1.5:1
can someone profeesioanl here can tell me please what is the basic settings- if not the precise at least the range-
attack-
release-
thrshold-
ratio-
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Kitnam
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Posted : Apr 23, 2006 15:59
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KOT BEGEMOT
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Posted : Apr 23, 2006 18:14
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On 2006-04-17 13:26, S.D6 (Yakir .B.) wrote:
after you did what the tutorial say you have to compress is a lot to get the Kick at the start of the sample...
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SD.6 could you explain that part? plz. what does mean at the start of the kick?
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S.D6 (Yakir .B.)
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Posted : Apr 24, 2006 01:25
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i will explain you what compressor's do to the kick,
befor you cmpress the kick that on "infected mushroom" tutorial it looks like this (look at the start of the sample:
http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=befor3au.jpg
after compressing the kick you will get a start of the kick which looks like this:
http://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=after0dz.jpg
and that's make the kick sound's like a kick..
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