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Kicklength and it´s relationsip with the bpm
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Conny
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Posted : Mar 19, 2005 15:58
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Hi i wonder if there is a formula or something which shows how long a kickdrum should be in ms in relationship with the bpm.
I believe as a drummer plays in "real" life he decides how long the kick drum should decay in relation to the songs tempo.This is probably important for all the other drumsounds aswell the hihats, snareand crash.
I searched the internet and didn´t find anything about this topic 
So if you know anything abou this topic please help me
Best regards Conny
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s0ft
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Posted : Mar 19, 2005 16:39
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br0d
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Posted : Mar 19, 2005 18:27
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The formula is ((60000/bpm)/4) |
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index
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Posted : Mar 20, 2005 18:52
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1.7241379310344827586206896551724 sec?
Give us the correct u m*f* 
Seriusly there is a prog called bpm calculator that helps with ADSR,LFO and other cool stuff |
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Mar 20, 2005 19:20
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Elad
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Freeflow
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Posted : Mar 21, 2005 03:03
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Hey Colin!
thanks for recommending it! Handy little tool indeed...it displays lots of information on a small area.
take a look at S-cal if you havent, the dev is about to upgrade it to VST format, it might get interesting then, also check his VST FX out...they look cool, i have only tried the Autopanner and from first impression it seems cool...
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XrTC
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sy000321
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Posted : Mar 21, 2005 16:00
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On 2005-03-21 02:25, tsabeat wrote:
mm i mostly use simple 1/16 length for the kick most times..
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i usually set the decay of the kick envelope to 1/16 but i find that i loose the bassier part of the kick... is this ok?
thanks
 roll a joint or STFU :) |
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14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Mar 21, 2005 17:02
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On 2005-03-19 15:58, Conny wrote:
Hi i wonder if there is a formula or something which shows how long a kickdrum should be in ms in relationship with the bpm. |
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In real and synthetic drum sounds, the "click" of the kick drum is way too short for you to have to use maths for the decay of the ADSR that controls the filter cut-off's or oscillator's frequency.
Just make sure you record a kick where the sustained, low end frequency stays longer than you really need, and then simply chop the audio region (a touch less than 1/16th)with a small fade to eliminate the chance of non zero-crossing point artifacts, or simply use a gate.
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Elad
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Posted : Mar 22, 2005 04:26
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On 2005-03-21 16:00, sy000321 wrote:
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On 2005-03-21 02:25, tsabeat wrote:
mm i mostly use simple 1/16 length for the kick most times..
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i usually set the decay of the kick envelope to 1/16 but i find that i loose the bassier part of the kick... is this ok?
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try to open full sustain and write the note 1/16 - i rather that.. tho each sample to its own.. i dont want no rules 
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fregle
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Posted : Mar 22, 2005 20:53
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i just put a gate on the kick, and close it further and further untill i hear that it doesn't cross the bass anymore.... then i make a little rendition to look at the wave and see if it's cut short enough. |
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EYB
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Posted : Mar 23, 2005 08:13
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On 2005-03-22 20:53, FREGLE wrote:
i just put a gate on the kick, and close it further and further untill i hear that it doesn't cross the bass anymore.... then i make a little rendition to look at the wave and see if it's cut short enough.
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LOL, if it sounds really good and all fits u look if it the kick is short enough?
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sy000321
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Posted : Mar 23, 2005 13:17
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On 2005-03-23 08:13, EYB wrote:
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On 2005-03-22 20:53, FREGLE wrote:
i just put a gate on the kick, and close it further and further untill i hear that it doesn't cross the bass anymore.... then i make a little rendition to look at the wave and see if it's cut short enough.
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LOL, if it sounds really good and all fits u look if it the kick is short enough?
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i wouldn't laugh... it's not the first time i realise i can't trust my ears, mostly if i'm working on a track during the whole day... by the end of it my ears can barely hear silence
roll a joint or STFU :) |
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jaramogi
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Posted : Mar 23, 2005 13:41
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| it's not the first time i realise i can't trust my ears, mostly if i'm working on a track during the whole day... by the end of it my ears can barely hear silence |
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then its better to break up the work for this day, only trust your ears |
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