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Kick N Bass Gel (Win VST)

Upavas
Upavas

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Posted : Mar 20, 2012 05:14
Do kick and bass each have their own cutoff and envelopes?
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jizy
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Posted : Mar 20, 2012 05:21
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On 2012-03-20 05:14, Upavas wrote:
Do kick and bass each have their own cutoff and envelopes?
Sounds promising...


with a re trig on off switch aswell?
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Mar 20, 2012 05:31
Separate level meters for both kick and bass (ideally placed next to each other), with clip light for main output placed near main output level control.

Looking forward to making some presets for this when the guys finish the current version...           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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minddoctorsmakeacid
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Posted : Mar 20, 2012 06:55
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On 2012-03-20 05:14, Upavas wrote:
Do kick and bass each have their own cutoff and envelopes?
Sounds promising...


Kick has its own envelope but no filter!
You think that a kick dedicated filter would be handy?

Bass has 2 Osc, each has its own LP/HP Filter and dedicated graphic envelope were you can bend the curves and create sustain loops making it as flexible as an lfo!

Than there is the main Decay knob that controls both kick and bass decay and a LP/BP/HP Filter that controls both kick and bass as well!


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On 2012-03-20 05:21, jizy wrote:
with a re trig on off switch aswell?


Yes but only for the bass filters envelope and bass amp envelope!
You think that would be an advantage for kick or main decay?


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On 2012-03-20 05:31, Colin OOOD wrote:
Separate level meters for both kick and bass (ideally placed next to each other), with clip light for main output placed near main output level control.


Interesting sugestion Colin, me and Makus have came to the conclusion that the DAW metters will allays be more acurate and that using meters on the pluging increases substantialy the ammount of cpu, so maybe just a clip LEDon the main section or next to the kick and bass volumes?

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On 2012-03-20 05:31, Colin OOOD wrote:
Looking forward to making some presets for this when the guys finish the current version...



Looking foward to hear them!

PS-Menog and some other artists might also jump on board for preset building!
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minddoctorsmakeacid
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Posted : Mar 20, 2012 14:32
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jizy
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Posted : Mar 20, 2012 15:51
lookin forward to this. not that theres anything thing wrong with what ive got for bass(ACE) but 2 in one has gotta save time.

what about CPU?
minddoctorsmakeacid
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Posted : Mar 20, 2012 16:54
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On 2012-03-20 15:51, jizy wrote:
lookin forward to this. not that theres anything thing wrong with what ive got for bass(ACE) but 2 in one has gotta save time.

what about CPU?



Good question!
As it is still in beta testing it hasn't been optimized yet so it's hard to say!

But it will aprox. be using 7% to 15% of a core's cpu!

Its not much if you for example have 2 sylenth1 making kick and bass it will demand 15%, this is based on my own cpu.

Surelly you may think that this is only one plugin and it shouldn't take the room of 2, but its not really, it's 2 in 1 as kick and bass have diferent types of processing and had to be created separately within the plugin!

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PsyGalaXy
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Posted : Mar 20, 2012 18:46
md you are the best!
long time i dream a plugin made especially for psy!

btw, is a mac au version on your plans? it would be so nice and logic users are getting many day by day           http://mystic-sound.com/releases/ioon-cosmic-downtempo-9314-oclock/
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Equilizyme
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Posted : Mar 20, 2012 18:58
mdma posted a while ago in the facebook psyforum that there is an emulator for winVSTs usable in mac:

http://www.macupdate.com/app/mac/34640/vfx

i would be happy to see a straight mac au version too tho

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minddoctorsmakeacid
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Posted : Mar 20, 2012 20:01
Yeah sorry about that guys!

PS-At first it was meant to be psytrance only and it was design for that purpose but when we started tweaking it we found that it has nice capabilities for other styles 2, so some of the presets will be for electro, dub, dnb, etc...           http://www.MindDoctorsMakeAcid.com
Upavas
Upavas

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Posted : Mar 21, 2012 00:27
A kick dedicated filter would be great imo. Separate level meters for kick and bass would also be great. Also yes to the clip light !!!

Anything that enables us to be more precise in what we want to accomplish helps.

Also keep in mind that if you want to sell this plugin to different genres it would be handy to have e.g. an lfo that can trigger the bass filter cutoff, all those dub step idiots will love you for it.

I am also up for preset making if interested...
Is there a sidechain option available as well in the plugin? That would be way cool, maybe one you can switch back and forth to make interesting stuff with...

Looking forward to checking out this beast hands on !




          Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
http://timecode.bandcamp.com
http://upavas.com
http://soundcloud.com/upavas-1/
minddoctorsmakeacid
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Posted : Mar 21, 2012 02:48
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On 2012-03-21 00:27, Upavas wrote:
A kick dedicated filter would be great imo. Separate level meters for kick and bass would also be great. Also yes to the clip light !!!

Anything that enables us to be more precise in what we want to accomplish helps.

Also keep in mind that if you want to sell this plugin to different genres it would be handy to have e.g. an lfo that can trigger the bass filter cutoff, all those dub step idiots will love you for it.

I am also up for preset making if interested...
Is there a sidechain option available as well in the plugin? That would be way cool, maybe one you can switch back and forth to make interesting stuff with...

Looking forward to checking out this beast hands on !








Good tips bro, we had 2 lfo's previously but decided it wouldn't do much but now that you've mention that, I might put one in there after all!

Kick dedicated filter and meters we have to see if we can add them without much cpu charge, need to keep cpu down as it is already getting preaty demanding!

As for the sidechain, that was one of my first ideas but its a bit tricky and I remember I had quite a few headhackes trying to achieve it as it is a whole diferent subject that involves using a compressor and that might comprimize cpu 2 but will give it another shot!

I will PM you!           http://www.MindDoctorsMakeAcid.com
Upavas
Upavas

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Posted : Mar 21, 2012 02:58
oh, I just had a brilliant idea regarding sidechain... will skype you soon...           Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
http://timecode.bandcamp.com
http://upavas.com
http://soundcloud.com/upavas-1/
jizy
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Posted : Mar 21, 2012 04:35
yeh innit lol, lets realy fuk this up. how about a mod matrix that can assign eeevvverthing aswell. velocity that routes to everything lol
minddoctorsmakeacid
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Posted : Mar 21, 2012 06:22
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On 2012-03-21 04:35, jizy wrote:
yeh innit lol, lets realy fuk this up. how about a mod matrix that can assign eeevvverthing aswell. velocity that routes to everything lol




We've had 2 lfo's and a mod envelope that could be assignable to almoust every parameter before but we need to stick to what is really usefull, otherwise we end up with alot of cpu demand and too many uselles features(making it confusing to the end user), lets not forget this is for kick and bass, not leads, pads, etc...           http://www.MindDoctorsMakeAcid.com
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