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Kick clarity in the mix tips?
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seeker
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Posted : May 16, 2015 00:12:07
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Does anybody have any tips on how to make a kick not become buried in the mix, to make it sound clearer during the entire track?
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Xsze
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Posted : May 16, 2015 10:41
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Sidechain everything else against it, of course, not obvious crazy pumping way, but more subtle, just to clear things out when he hits.
But again, all depends on kick, some easily cut trough, some need work, boost around 4khz, layer hat or something.
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : May 16, 2015 17:33
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Sonica
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Posted : May 16, 2015 19:41
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don't throw everything you have at it all at once? spacing and timing then transmod/sidechain ? depends how much stuff you got going at once.. whats that word? erm , shit hang on,, contra - forgot the word
edit . ahhh the feeling of remembering , great aint it! COMPROMISE
hard to say though as who's to say the kick lacks power rather vice verser? cant hear the mix
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seeker
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Posted : May 16, 2015 23:48
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wirakocha
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Posted : May 18, 2015 00:42
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Oni Katsu
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Posted : May 18, 2015 02:16
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On 2015-05-16 10:41, Xsze wrote:
Sidechain everything
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Oh god
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hahaha kidding though.
My advice is certainly the same. Also a specific badboy that drowns your kick is the bass
I would be careful when EQ'ing low-end in leads (you might lose fatness after 400) , and as Xsze says, sidechain everything little by little. don't make it like, really pumpy and all, it's a fine tuning process.
And then... the frequencies you boost in your kick, should be frequencies you reduce in the bass. Ideally, sometimes it can be very odd sounding of course, but i definitely recommend trying that as well... http://soundcloud.com/li-fe
I said I like it dirty, not muddy. |
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routingwithin
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Posted : May 18, 2015 11:12
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Boosting @ 4-5Khz would be the easy way out - but like so many have said before, ironically it makes it harder to mix everything. With minimal stuff I would not mind boosting frequencies - however keep in mind that you're messing with the phase, the more you boost -
but with your wall of sound tracks I would recommend cutting 4-5Khz on all the other sounds. So the click shines through. Again like when boosting remember that with every cut you are taking away energy. If you don't know what you're doing, you can end up making a lifeless mix.
Like the others said sidechain would be a better option. See what works for you.
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Xsze
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Posted : May 18, 2015 12:08
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On 2015-05-18 02:16, Oni Katsu wrote:
hahaha kidding though.
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routingwithin
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Posted : May 18, 2015 12:22
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Quick tip on sidechain imo - don't be lazy, just throwing a compressor on the sound and sidechain to kick.
Many times you can get better results by doing it manually - drawing in a volume or EQ automation curve. This way you can also move the curve around back or forward to get interesting results. As if it's sucking into the kick, rather than just ducking the kick.
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Sonica
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Posted : May 18, 2015 14:44
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On 2015-05-16 23:48, seeker wrote:
thanks for the tips this is the mix:
http://www33.zippyshare.com/v/fqIAoWfI/file.html
It's still a work in progress and i've made the bass a bit quiter than it is here
and download for better sound quality.
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contextualy i can hear it hitting through.. just turn the mix up a notch
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Xsze
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Posted : May 18, 2015 18:03
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On 2015-05-18 12:22, routingwithin wrote:
Quick tip on sidechain imo - don't be lazy, just throwing a compressor on the sound and sidechain to kick.
Many times you can get better results by doing it manually - drawing in a volume or EQ automation curve. This way you can also move the curve around back or forward to get interesting results. As if it's sucking into the kick, rather than just ducking the kick.
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It's not lazy, it's practical, more so because this isn't about getting some particular curve and pumping, it's just getting things out of the way when kick hits, just a little and that can make things even groove a long little better.
In other cases, agree, doing manual volume automation curve is pretty hands on and instant.
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NEBULOsity
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Posted : May 18, 2015 19:57
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Notch kick click frequency from other staff is very effective as has been already said. You can try also mid/side processing and cut or compress only mid part of stereo signal and leave side part untouched. Kick is usually in mono so you get more space for it.
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Xsze
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Posted : May 18, 2015 23:14
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Worth pointing out I guess is, don't take whole mid part of the sounds, just offensive area, there's some EQ's that do that (free MEqualizer from Melda for example), opposed to some other mid/side tools.
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Oni Katsu
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Posted : May 19, 2015 05:42
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On 2015-05-18 12:08, Xsze wrote:
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On 2015-05-18 02:16, Oni Katsu wrote:
hahaha kidding though.
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GAHHAHA
http://soundcloud.com/li-fe
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