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Kick Characteristic

Sakoz

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Posted : Jan 6, 2005 15:36
As we all know, a kick is sometimes beyond pitch-bending a sine wave. Let's take for example Psycraft's "Top Gun", "Nothing But Music", or, Astrix's "Monster remix", "Artcore". The kick in these tracks has more to it than a simple sine wave. It has a character, something that is a bit beyond simple synthesis. Kicks like that, BTW, are very popular, and you can hear that they are not a generated simple wave that has been bended.
Those kicks have some .. 'dirt' on them, you guys know what i mean. How can i have a character like this for my kicks? Should i look somewhere for some specific sample?

I suspect it's maybe a regular kick with an acoustic, regular, bass drum layered on it. What do you say?
Boobytrip
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Posted : Jan 6, 2005 17:12
http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/Feb02/articles/synthsecrets0202.asp?session=109ff133346108781fb6eea1ec43127a

This link should give you a good start. If you try the techniques that are described here, you're bound to find some interesting sounds.
eliran17
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Posted : Jan 6, 2005 17:58
Well , i'm thinking exactly like you and didnt find any new ways for kicks till now i trying hard to EQ and Comprese it correctly but didnt realy thought on layers and techniques...           <One learns people through the heart, not the eyes or the intellect>
metacortex

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Posted : Feb 17, 2005 02:15
can some one provide a tutorial on how to synthesize a 'Pro' sounding kick + what processing should be done...

one thats not as complex as the SOS link above....

there is definately more than just creating a sine wave kick in sound forge ....

the free samples available on the net are not that great ...

Iv been searching all over for a solution ...
even tried stealing kicks from other tracks (not a good option)

please help

P.S the new search function is terrible
Aldus B
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Posted : Feb 17, 2005 08:58
One could way to power up your kick is to not only put a compressor on it, but also put an oscillating filter with the shift turned all the way down on it.
sy000321
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Posted : Feb 17, 2005 13:30
Quote:

On 2005-02-17 02:15, metacortex wrote:
can some one provide a tutorial on how to synthesize a 'Pro' sounding kick + what processing should be done...

one thats not as complex as the SOS link above....



as always, there is no simple way to do it... (well it depends on what you consider simple)

as an option to sampled kicks and synthetising your own, try a vst like attack from waldorf and play with the presets until you get what you want

btw, in the attack manual there's a simpler way to make a tr909 kick, just the sine and a impulse (a pwded square wave) without the low filteres noize...

just download the pdf from one of the (now defunct) waldorf mirrors


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Boobytrip
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Posted : Feb 17, 2005 13:37
you can also synthesize several kicks and use the attack (click) of one, and the low sine of another by layering and tweaking them in a sampler. Export the result as an audio file and hey presto: a new kick is born, ready to rumble.
fregle
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Posted : Feb 17, 2005 20:14
i would use sampled real drums, and process them with EQ and compression... They will automatically sound dirtier... And you can add just as much punch as a synthesized kick with the EQ-Comp combination.
bandarlog
Bandarlog

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Posted : Feb 17, 2005 23:58
I go with Fregle, eq (REQ6,Q8) and compression (C4 with bass) and i would add some adjustements in length according to your bass.
Liquid Textures
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Posted : Feb 18, 2005 02:42
If u are using logic, then try to use the ES1 reso-kick preset
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