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kick beside rev.kick problems

Mike A
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Posted : Nov 12, 2010 11:26
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On 2010-11-11 14:35, snowdogg wrote:
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On 2010-11-11 11:44, Mike A wrote:
Make a combination of 1 and 3 - cut a bit of the end (high freqs) of the reversed, and leave a really tiny space in between. Like, 5% of what you have in 1. Don't forget to make a short fadeout in the reversed kick so you will not get clicks.



thanks! do u always use the same sample for both?,. and do you mean fadeout just the very last fraction where the 'click' is? to zero?


You could do it with 2 different samples. Never thought about that actually.
Try it - can be nice.

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sometimes reverse kick and kick creates a phasing problem example 2


Phasing is the wrong word to use here.

Anyway, no filters needed.
Make the 2 samples as close as possible, fadeout the treble part of the reversed kick so the real kick has the proper attack transient.
daark
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Posted : Nov 12, 2010 16:10
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Phasing is the wrong word to use here.




yep anti phase           http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
Wierd shit happens :)
Mike A
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Posted : Nov 12, 2010 18:04
It doesn't have to do anything with phasing or antiphasing or phases at all.
daark
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Posted : Nov 12, 2010 20:10
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On 2010-11-12 18:04, Mike A wrote:
It doesn't have to do anything with phasing or antiphasing or phases at all.


well, enlighten us then. why?           http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
Wierd shit happens :)
Shiranui
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Posted : Nov 12, 2010 20:16
I think in this particular circumstance, the waveform of the kick is such that the "click" comes entirely from the envelope of the kick, and when you put a revkick before it, the "click" goes away because you no longer have that sharp transition from 0 to peak, because the peak of the revkick is right up against it.
daark
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Posted : Nov 12, 2010 20:41
well to tell you the truth never had this problem ever...





1:44 and 2:56 i think
i did nothing on the reverse kick
just the kick reversed

          http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
Wierd shit happens :)
Mike A
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Posted : Nov 12, 2010 21:10
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On 2010-11-12 20:10, daark wrote:
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On 2010-11-12 18:04, Mike A wrote:
It doesn't have to do anything with phasing or antiphasing or phases at all.


well, enlighten us then. why?



Phasing (or constructive inteference and destructive interference) occurs when 2 waveforms are superimposed, and they have the same frequency (at the same location in time).
This is not the case here, he made a reverse kick and as soon as it ended, without any pause, the normal kick plays. Nothing is superimposed on anything.
The kick loses it's punch because it has no transient attack, not because of phasing.
daark
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Posted : Nov 13, 2010 10:46
could be could be clipping also cause mine clips some times when i put em glued together           http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
Wierd shit happens :)
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