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FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Jan 18, 2006 21:05
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I know this has been asked before, but i searched and couldn´t find...
Considering a final mix at 0Db,
how loud is your kick and bass? (I know this will depend on their loudness, etc, but average...)
I normally have my kicks at about -2/-3 Db and bass about 2db lower than the kick...but i´m not sure if thats to loud in order to have whole mix bellow 0db...so what do I do? Do I just put the master fader a bit lower or should the master be always at 0db and lower all the other sounds in order for the mix not to clip?
Thanks in advance for your time
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cytopia
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Posted : Jan 18, 2006 21:23
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i mix default kick -7db and bass -7.5 or -8.0 then later sometimes i up them a bit if snowed under, but generally not louder than -5db
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Elad
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 02:23
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FluoSamsara (Oxygen)
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 03:25
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Cool, nice to know that, guess I was really mixing too loud then 
Thanks for the replies cytopia and tsabeat |
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Get-a-fix
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 14:17
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sorry for the dumb question guys..but how would i analyse what db i'm mixing my kick & bass in fruity loops for example?
I tried putting the fruity db meter on the seperate kick & bass channels but that doesn't help..
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texmex
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 15:03
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Are you guys talking about rms or peak db here? Rms makes more sense, but just checking... |
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orange
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 15:26
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On 2006-01-19 14:17, S-Cube wrote:
sorry for the dumb question guys..but how would i analyse what db i'm mixing my kick & bass in fruity loops for example?
I tried putting the fruity db meter on the seperate kick & bass channels but that doesn't help..
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using fruitys db meters on kick bass channels should do the job make sure they are about -5db for kick and -5,5 -6db for bass i dont understand why it didnt workk for you its working for me!
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presto music
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 15:36
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yeah RMS would make more sense... maybe.
but i just go by peak on the track.
although, actually, when you think about it, the bass and kick are gonna be pretty squashed, therefore you have consitent and predictable peaks, and therefore peak is a reliable reference.
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e-motion
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 16:08
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well RMS can be felt by ears, peak cannot it's good to have a reference of the peak so that you know when you're compressing too much or increasing the volume too much. |
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 16:36
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Kick at -6 and bass between -9/-3, Peak. I change compression and/or programming if the transients take too much headroom. Also depends on perceived loudness tho.
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e-motion
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 17:59
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dumb question... when you say the volume are you talking about the volume shown in the kick\bass channel or the value shown in the master? cause cubase has a 3db decrease when passing a channel to the master channel (right?). |
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parapsyched
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 18:14
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On 2006-01-19 17:59, e-motion wrote:
cause cubase has a 3db decrease when passing a channel to the master channel (right?).
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anyone else come across this? cause my cubase doesn`t to that...... db levels r the same.... donno....
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Elad
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 19:13
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e-motion
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 19:19
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when i said right it wasn't a direction but an adjective  well just checked that and it's equal from the channel to the master. maybe it was a SX2 thingie or settings thingie |
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ichabod
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Posted : Jan 19, 2006 19:37
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Actually when I look at most pro tracks in Soundforge, the kick is usually closer to -2dB! On some it is even higher. That is looking at the peak level of the kick during the intro when no other sounds are on top of it. The bass level varies depening on the style. |
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