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Keeping consistency while producing an album
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willsanquil
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Posted : Jun 21, 2010 03:34
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Looking back on my post and the OP's, seems mine was just a comment on how a lot of stuff seems to be the same, but that doesn't really have anything to do with consistency...
Yes, there are albums out there as you describe, it makes perfect sense...I'm hard put to add anything additionally that will not be the same stuff repeated.
However, that one of the things you can do when producing an album is to have a concept or a framework for it before you dive into it. For instance, there is a Cosmosis concept album based around the central theme of music/knowledge being gifted to us by extra terrestrial intelligences or something like that...heard him talk about it in an interview somewhere.
If you're still 'finding your voice' or experimenting, then yeah I can see tracks not really 'fitting' together in that they're a different style...though as long as whatever you're making is consistently *good* I think multiple styles is great.
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Jun 21, 2010 05:21
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I think we are on different sides of the same orbit – gravitating towards the same thing nonetheless. 
BTW, you have a double-album’s worth written already, while I am still learning to make beeps, drums, bells and cheesy pads. Well, it all comes together eventually... 
It's great to be able to read all the advice here. 
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Koozer Mox
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Posted : Jun 21, 2010 05:42
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im with sanathana even tho some albums can be specific and thematic. for example .
album name "outer space"
so the tracks should have names like "spacechip 3" as example.
.and should have similar, type of melodies..basslines..synths or speeches. so each tracks links to each other.
but making a album with diferent types of "sound" is also killer showing and showcasting the wide "range" of styles that the artists can produce as wizack`s Dead end .....Welcome To Knutby and Razors and ice creams"
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aXis
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Posted : Jun 21, 2010 06:31
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i think its the mastering presets tat give u the same timbre thru out. |
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orbit
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Posted : Jun 21, 2010 10:06
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dija
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Posted : Jun 21, 2010 17:45
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it is my understanding that its not a certain style you want to obtain its just to keep people from having to use the volume button. listen to some of vibraspheres albums they have a chill song or two on each one. even ticon does. to me its about the elements being about the same volume throughout. keep the bass about the same etc throughout the album. or you could just create one 60 minute set that plays straight through and just create stop points where the idea changes to create the tracks if you really want it to flow together. like the last sphongle release nothing lasts but nothing is lost. theres all kinds of music in there but they make it all flow together.
as stated above by axis i believe the mastering engineer does this if your music is not one long track divided at certain points. he matches up the lows mids and highs in each track to fit in with the others.
if your album is all full on though you could use a similar bass for each track or a similar kick as you said. naturally your going to use a lot of the same production techniques for your breaks fx etc. so it is going to all sound like you unless you just totally go off the wall and make some ambience to put in there which could be done for a short intro track.
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ZenMind
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Posted : Jun 22, 2010 11:36
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To answer all your questions you should listen to Kemic-Al album The Dark Journal. To this day i havent heard anything like it, all concepts of what an album should be is compressed in that one. 14 tracks that tell a story from beginning to end, cohesion and originality in every single track.
Multi style is cool also, in this case i guess all goes +/-, its an interpretation of many genres by the same artist.
Cohesion is not achieved by using the same elements in all tracks. IMO , its the way you construct them that imprints cohesion and originality, your own way of making a break, the way you build your track to ecstasy, the way you program your melodies, your use of fxs, how much of you is actually in a track
Mastering will give you the final touch to balance the oddities between tracks.
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Remy [POF]
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Posted : Jun 22, 2010 16:30
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imo your should try to find your sound before you start working on an album.
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piXan
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Posted : Jun 22, 2010 23:13
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i dont think that this kind of consistancy has been a real issue among psytrance producers, with some notable exceptions.
probably because the albums are more a collection of tracks meant to be used by djs at parties and rarely for home listening (although i know that is done too)
so the concept album is rare ,
but one think i love about artists like Artifakt or Scorb is that their sound and their mixing has a certain sytle (that doesnt mean lack of creativity for me) and come with albums that do make sense as a whole. but thats really not the psytrance standard
would like to see more of albums like that !!
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Jun 23, 2010 00:15
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On 2010-06-22 23:13, piXan wrote:
would like to see more of albums like that !!
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You'll find one if you look at the post right above yours.
"Chaos Opera" is a coherent story (an actual story, a book) written in a consistent style. |
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orange
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Posted : Jun 23, 2010 02:28
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psychowave
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Posted : Jun 23, 2010 17:38
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a similar "sonority" with the tracks are good imo, but not a rule...depending of what you wanna with their album...
but "similar sonority" is not equals a style-similarity...or bpm issue...
maybe that similarity can be the instruments of you use, like the bands album. A player not use one guitar per each track, or a drummer, play with major times with just one drum, with 2 or 3 snares, some different cymbals...
btw, you dont need worry to much about that...i feel you like mean identity with your question, but identity are in your ideas and your musical "baggage" at your subconscious...
leave this worry for the DJs
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Ricciardo
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Posted : Jun 23, 2010 19:07
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its all about ideals, diferent ideals, diferent concept, diferent music
if you have consistent ideas and ideals about what should be trance music, you will produce several tracks with that same touch
doesnt matter how they were produced
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OpenSourceCode
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Posted : Jun 26, 2010 04:47
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aXis
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Posted : Jun 27, 2010 16:15
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On 2010-06-23 02:28, orange wrote:
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On 2010-06-21 06:31, aXis wrote:
i think its the mastering presets tat give u the same timbre thru out.
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