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Keeping a send from attenuating a signal?

jsrobinson
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Posted : Feb 2, 2012 05:12:09
In Live, what'd be the proper way of keeping a send fx from attenuating a signal?

I'm just wondering if I should be doing something other than turning down the raw output signal from the original channel? Or, is there a smarter way of routing?

Basically whenever I'm running something through a return fx, it's increasing the output gain. I think I understand why this is happening but don't know how to best setup to properly get around it.

Thanks
Equilizyme
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Posted : Feb 2, 2012 05:46
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On 2012-02-02 05:12:09, jsrobinson wrote:

Basically whenever I'm running something through a return fx, it's increasing the output gain.




do you mean that when you put something through a return that the level of the master goes up? cuz that is supposed to happen. If the level of the original channel is going up, not that should not happen. If when you send something to a send channel and its level goes up, that is also supposed to happen. If you want to turn that down, you can add a utility at the end of the send channel and turn that down, or just turn down the fader on the send....

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Alekzis


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Posted : Feb 2, 2012 17:01
i don't use live but i think that your problem is the dry/wet knob of your effect that is insert in the return channel... set it to full wet. then you can hear only the processed sound and not the original. so you have a channel with the original sound and another channel with the processed sound, then you mix it           https://soundcloud.com/poisonritual
Kolishin Methud


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Posted : Feb 2, 2012 19:54
i have had this same problem. Ive researched into it and if its to loud you can put a limiter on the fx send. but what we deal with is the master gain getting louder when a fx send is on/playing. this is because its takeing audio information from a source (synth or sample, etc...) and processing it through a effect and duplicating that sound out to the master. Thus making the sound louder than one might want. I havn't found a solution for this but if you want to understand more on what im talking about. Play a sound through the send effect... then solo that send channel and you will hear its a slightly lighter duplicate of the original sound only with that effect on top... (thats why when both are playing it boosts the final output louder.) sorry if this is confusing :/           http://soundcloud.com/brentmalik
willsanquil
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Posted : Feb 2, 2012 22:10
I don't understand how this is confusing?

You route an audio signal to another bus/channel which has an effect on it...

So you have the original + the FX version...and you are confused as to why its louder?

Unless I'm reading it wrong, it seems like the same question as saying "well, I have 1...but then I add another 1 to my original 1 and now I have more than 1! WTF is going on!?!?"

EDIT: Also, isn't attenuation a *decrease* in volume, but you are talking about an increase in volume?

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greyball


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Posted : Feb 3, 2012 00:23
yes
Kolishin Methud


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Posted : Feb 3, 2012 03:39
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On 2012-02-02 22:10, willsanquil wrote:
I don't understand how this is confusing?

You route an audio signal to another bus/channel which has an effect on it...

So you have the original + the FX version...and you are confused as to why its louder?

Unless I'm reading it wrong, it seems like the same question as saying "well, I have 1...but then I add another 1 to my original 1 and now I have more than 1! WTF is going on!?!?"

EDIT: Also, isn't attenuation a *decrease* in volume, but you are talking about an increase in volume?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attenuation



exactly that.           http://soundcloud.com/brentmalik
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