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KEEP PSYTRANCE UNDERGROUND
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offthenutboom
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Posted : Feb 28, 2005 22:15
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I think it is a natural developement of all great arts nowadays, ideas to become marketable goods. It part of the system we live in, we live by and we live for. One person creates, innovates and then the idea is capitalized and massified. There is nothing wrong with that. But, as a common denominator is stablished to reach greater numbers of ppl, there is clear mechanization and standarization of the product, in this case music. Suddenly, music is not unique and reflective on ones expressive vision, but a template for economic growth.
Personally, I love to catch music when it is created from personal inspiration and without any sense self gratification, just because it is reflective of the personal and spiritual communication coming straight from artist's perception of the world we live in. Once the artists become tools for sales and slave themselves to expectations and money, then they do not communicate anymore, but create music "projects" subjected to all capitalist parameters. So it is not a matter to communicate his/her inner feelings, perceptions, taste... but create a much more effective machine for profit. The role changes.
As I said it is natural for this to happen and I do not hate it or try to destroy it, but I will not support it either. For me, once the music becomes part of the money making machine it looses its essence and sounds hollow, without creative substance. It becomes mechanized and de-humanized.
So I personally support the underground, and put effort and time to support the originality from the innovators within psy trance. Because without innovation and originality, art is destined to die since it will be trapped within the set of rules and pre-conditioned ideas of the mechanized system it thrives. |
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BrainLizzard
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Posted : Mar 1, 2005 16:29
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On 2005-02-28 21:27, David(KIVA) wrote:
DAMN Brainlizzard you just hate I.M!
I.M. ARE NOT PSYTRANCE SO THE
WORD "HATE" SHOULD BE "TRUTH"
First you call LA's psytrance scene the armpit of the US
ONCE AGAIN THE TRUTH
and now
your on another hating(TRUTH) campaign. Maybe you should spend more time saving your money and buying a studio. Then you can create your own sound to keep underground. WHAT CAN YOU AFFECT.
YOU
:::WARNING TO ALL::::
Brainlizzard drinks 3 gallons of HATERade a day! HEHEHEHEHE
(you like how I played on the words with a corporate brand name just get your blood boiling)
NOT REALLY , I'M JUST ANOTHER YOURSELF
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offthenutboom
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Posted : Mar 1, 2005 22:22
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Brain,
We all have our differences. I do not think insulting other's work will get anything resolved. I do think there are other places... Like here in FL... they are much more underdeveloped in psy trance scene. I give it to the guys in LA to be able to have steady parties, whatever the content. I am glad that anywhere in the US there is ppl with the initiative to build this visionary understanding of our existence As I said before don't destroy what is created already, just make your own choices on what to support and what to build.
I went to a IM party not for IM themselves, but for all the friends I have in this scene. I much prefer to go the extra mile to SF for an insane party or to build what I believe than to support something I can't relate to anymore. Some ppl disagree with me, but I have a clear vision of what I want.
The trick is to stay positive, unite and send positive vibes to all around. I have not always been this way and many times I have ranted away. Now I just think I have the power to make changes for what I believe without creating all this atmosphere of negativity. It turns out useless to create all this hate as oppose to build something special together.
Keep it underground he he |
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krisamadhi
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Posted : Mar 2, 2005 08:33
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BrainLizzard
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 16:55
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On 2005-03-02 08:33, krisamadhi wrote:
nice game brain,
running in circles is fun!
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WOW ! SOMEONE CALLED ME OUT AND IF YOUR THE GUY FROM NORTH CAROLINA I FEEL HONORED . I HEARD YOU GUYS KNOW HOW TO THROW A (TRUE) UNDERGROUND EVENT. IN FACT I HEARD YOU WERE ONE OF THE LONGEST STANDING UNDERGROUND PSY TRANCE SCENES IN THE U.S....CAN'T WAIT TO GET MY ASS OVER THERE WHEN GOA GIL ARRIVES AND BOUNCE WITH ONE OF THE ELDER TRIBES IN THE U.S.....AND FROM WHAT I HAVE HEARD ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL DANCE COMMUNITIES WORLD WIDE !!!
 
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bluespectralmonkey
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Posted : Mar 3, 2005 23:17
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DiMiTry
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Posted : Mar 4, 2005 00:21
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you guys talking to yourselves?
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BrainLizzard
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Posted : Sep 1, 2010 07:38
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OMG!!! This is too funny, your lizzards only thread topic ever... Funny shit
Keep music evil has long past but underground with shovels is something else
The U in A.U.M. could mean Underground... too funny indeed
 
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vector_0
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Posted : Sep 2, 2010 19:02
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FattyAcid
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Posted : Sep 2, 2010 19:44
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! +1
see, leave dubstep out and you WILL be underground
interesting
veeery
and Don doesn't count, nor torin..... cause theyre cool
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FattyAcid
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Posted : Sep 2, 2010 19:45
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as well as all the other dubstep producers on this board, hey, at least you're making muzik!
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BrainLizzard
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Posted : Sep 2, 2010 20:51
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Thanks for the complement, your lizzard loves magic and i'm only trying to keep it real without all the noise
 
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BrainLizzard
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Posted : Sep 2, 2010 20:57
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On 2010-09-02 19:44, FattyAcid wrote:
! +1
see, leave dubstep out and you WILL be underground
interesting
veeery
and Don doesn't count, nor torin..... cause theyre cool
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I love Don as well, he played a large roll in getting WB started and was the backbone for the A.U.M. chill stage...
Dubstep isn't my claim and your lizzard even has a few funny jokes about it however, as long as we don't loose our focus over it, then whatever.. Tree thuggish thugs are cool but sometimes a bit to cocky for me but what am i worried about? My dance rocks some shit they can't even keep up with
 
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MR VOMERS
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Posted : Sep 2, 2010 23:04
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a google trend graph? LOL!
that's it folks polls closed.
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emilybobemily
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Posted : Sep 3, 2010 00:32
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hahaha |
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