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orik
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Posted : Oct 4, 2004 16:42
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because midi is transmited in a serial way,
bit after bit 31250 bit per second, its
best to put the percution on channel one,
that way it sounds tighter because thats the first channel in the seria. |
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EYB
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Posted : Oct 4, 2004 17:10
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what? don't get what u mean?
can u please explain a bit more, i am very interested 
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Boobytrip
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Posted : Oct 4, 2004 17:12
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What about latency compensation ? Or does Cubase SX 2.0 and above only compensate for the latency of plugins and not of midi ? |
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orik
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Posted : Oct 4, 2004 18:08
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no it dosnt have anything to do with
latency or time compancation.
the point is that the way midi is transmited
is like...a train- with one message after
the other - (one crate after the other..)
the rate of this transmition is 31,250 bits
per second - that means it dosnt transmit a
message to all the channels simultaniusely
but one channel after another with all the
midi messages following each channel -
this is very fast and you cant realy percieve any latency, but you will notice
that if you move your percution to chanel one
(wich is the first channel to be transmited
therfore more percise time wize...)
the percution would be tighter - try it!
BOOBYTRIP did you think about sae...? |
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Oct 4, 2004 19:23
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You're not quite right, I'm afraid. The order in which MIDI data gets sent depends ONLY on the software doing the sending, and is nothing to do with the MIDI specification itself. If the MIDI interface is told to send data for channel 10 before data for channel 1, that's what it will do.
One way you can help with this though is to make sure your MIDI drum tracks are at the top of the arrange window, as most sequencing software scans the tracks from top to bottom and sends out the MIDI data in the order it finds it. Therefore, if all your drums are on the first few tracks, their events will get sent out before events on the same beat but on lower tracks.
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orik
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Posted : Oct 4, 2004 19:34
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so you mean its not about the channel number but the way it is on the arrange page?
how come...lets say for example
i have my track numbers scaterd around in the arrange page but the sequences will
start simultaniusly on all tracks...
the arrange page settings would first to the channel numbers? why? |
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WAVELOGIX
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Posted : Oct 4, 2004 20:26
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i still dont get orik .. @ all .....
maybe u could be a lil more specific and detailed ???
plur ... boom ! |
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Mike A
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Posted : Oct 4, 2004 20:31
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The thing is that it only applies to hardware midi transfer.
If you work with plugins and vst's it doesn't matter at all, it all works just fine.
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Dimitri
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Posted : Oct 4, 2004 20:34
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What is percution ? or Orik meant percussion ? |
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orik
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Posted : Oct 4, 2004 20:56
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i mean percussion  , mike especialy with vsts, just move your percussion to channel
1, and tell me if you heard a differance,
i have, and a few more people have,
give it shot tell me your results |
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Dimitri
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Posted : Oct 4, 2004 21:05
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Let me ask you a question . You make all your midi groove at midi channel 1 and mute all other channels and compare to all groove on midi channel 10 , if you hear difference .
I'm not quite sure but i think you doing a mistake , midi channels go in numeric order and you just put one over other .
But i can be wrong , ideas welcome . |
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orik
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Posted : Oct 4, 2004 21:15
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dimitri,
thats the whole point!
im talking about when midi runns alot of channels and alot of data, then either
whats on channel 1, or as OOOD sayd that
its by whats first in the arange page (although i nead an explanation from him why he says that...)
will be transmited before of the rest of the channels...read up there^...if you take individual chanels and solo them it makes no differance... |
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Dimitri
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Posted : Oct 4, 2004 21:23
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So what is the tip anyway ? You actualy say that midi channels one over the other aka in stages so what the point to put percussion on ch 1 when ch 2 will pass thru ch 1 (or afterward from Colin words) so ch 2 will always sound less efficient . |
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orik
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Posted : Oct 4, 2004 21:34
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depends...if what colin says is true, then
it will be by the arangment order.
if what i say...then channel 1 will sound the best, anyway, put channel 1 ( with percussion) on the top of the arange page...
and check just to b shure |
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Dimitri
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Posted : Oct 4, 2004 21:38
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Since i do not use Cubase i can't realy do the chekc becuase my sequencer not make any diffirence in midi send channel order .
I will wait till you all made this research because it is intresting subject. |
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