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Juan Verdera @ The Muses Rapt boycotting Israel
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supergroover
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Posted : Mar 15, 2010 20:45
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I think Alex is more a coffee man.. But I could be wrong..
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JohnTaramas
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Posted : Mar 15, 2010 20:56
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there is nothing worse than loosing a few shekels.. last time it happened to me i almost faint, it was aweful i can tell.
please alex, keep us informed about those serious artists that steal our hardly earned money! |
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KINO OKO
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Posted : Mar 15, 2010 22:42
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I had call with Juan Verdera hour ago and i get information from him that he loves Canada.
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Nectarios
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Posted : Mar 15, 2010 22:57
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DETOX
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Posted : Mar 16, 2010 01:33
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The following text was taken from Juan's facebook account.
"2 months ago somebody from a booking agency contact me to play in some parties in March. I didnt knew this people so i ask to other artist i saw at their ´DJ list. This artist told me he was not payed from them and say to me to be carefull. Other organicer told me the same. My decisión was to ask all the money for my f...ee in advance and must to be payed the same day closing the flight ticket reservación.Then this agency send me flight ticket reservación but not the money as was the agree. I said to them to send me the money as soon as possible.The time was passing...Then 5 days befote the flight i recived an email saying they just send me only a part of the money 60% and discounting commisions from the Western Union transfer they said me for the first time wich parties i must to play. I was very disagree. Because they don´t contact me before the transfer to say and because they are discounting the commision. I said the party is cancelled because is not serious to do the things without my agree. Then they said: please wait to the day befote the flight and they gonna send me the rest of the money. I was waiting till last moment and just when western union close the office to take the money transfer, they call me saying they still not have the money . I cancel the party at this moment. Then they called me many many times by my phone. And they promise me and to take the money after the flight some days befote but i didnt trust them and i said to cancel the parties. The was calling me all day one call after the other for hours. I was talking with them but i said the parties are cancel because was not the agree. They said was not possible to change the flight ticket and they will lose this money.The next day they send me and email telling me they just send more money but still not all the money and change the flight ticket without asking me. This people make decissions for themselves without asking meIt was the harder negotiation in my lifeAfter all this discussions i must to be with them for 12 days alone and i was afraid to be not good taking care of me, like food or to have the flight ticket for the come back canceled like happens to me other timesSo i didn´t go and was canceled. Was my decissision and i have the right because the didn´t made the agree.Now i am having emails from unknown person saying me this:
we will distroid you putaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa madraaaaaaaaaa you never dont back to israel if you come here you are dead man putaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa you will see what is mafiaaa putaaaaaaaaaa madraaaaaaaaaaaaaisrael hate you and we fuck you on the asss putaaaaaaaaaaaaa putaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa putaaaaaaaaaaaaa
An other ONE IN the facebook
man we not stop to put somthing abut u U NEVER COME TIO ISRAEL AND IF U COME WE KILL U OK REMEMBER THIS MSG FUKER PUTA
An other picture said i hate Israel
I want to said sorry to the people wants to go to this parties i canceled and to the organicers of the partiesAnd i want to say I LOVE ISRAEL with all my heart
Sorry for my poor english
Juan Verdera aka The Muses rapt"
In my humble opinion since the organisers didnt follow the original deal they aggreed with the artist then the artist has the right to cancel the party.Personally i am against paying artists 100% in advance (i worked with Tiesto and many big names in the past and they didnt asked all money in advance but just the 50% of their fee) but thats just me and since the organisers aggreed on this deal with the artist then they were obliged to follow this deal.
Now what the artist has to do is to return all the money he received so that he is also fair with his dealings.
Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!! |
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Mar 16, 2010 05:07
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Ascension
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Maska
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Posted : Mar 16, 2010 20:59
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On 2010-03-15 03:45, Pavel wrote:
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On 2010-03-15 02:23, Sputer wrote:
burn the spiriual healing track with all the remixes and let the security man play it. same shit 
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The single most overrated Psy Trance track ever. It's an average Nitzhonot track at best.
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They still book him after 15 years... must not be too overrated...
That song is tight...I remember it when it first came out in tokyo....so tight..so much emotion and it was just beautiful.....I spent days trying to find that song.... My friends from israel (kind of ironic now, considering the accusations of hate) were really the only ones that could help me and knew the song...but they kept saying juan verdera, not muses rapt.....I could not find it to save my life....then one day about two years later,my friend gave me this CD and sure enough there it was....It was beautiful....
I emailed him and explained to him how much I loved his track...Juan then told me an interesting story....Maybe crazy, but still awesome...
He had cancer and was told he was going to die....he then went into the studio and with all his emotion, made that track. he said he never felt such good energy....
and guess what, he went into remission and is still alive today....
So, this song is great...it imbodies the true meaning of trance from its very core...
and I believe that's why the beautiful people of israel, still love to bounce and stomp to it today...
overrated? I think not....
assumption is the mother of all fuckups. |
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Maska
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Posted : Mar 16, 2010 21:14
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On 2010-03-16 01:33, DETOX wrote:
The following text was taken from Juan's facebook account.
"2 months ago somebody from a booking agency contact me to play in some parties in March. I didnt knew this people so i ask to other artist i saw at their ´DJ list. This artist told me he was not payed from them and say to me to be carefull. Other organicer told me the same. My decisión was to ask all the money for my f...ee in advance and must to be payed the same day closing the flight ticket reservación.Then this agency send me flight ticket reservación but not the money as was the agree. I said to them to send me the money as soon as possible.The time was passing...Then 5 days befote the flight i recived an email saying they just send me only a part of the money 60% and discounting commisions from the Western Union transfer they said me for the first time wich parties i must to play. I was very disagree. Because they don´t contact me before the transfer to say and because they are discounting the commision. I said the party is cancelled because is not serious to do the things without my agree. Then they said: please wait to the day befote the flight and they gonna send me the rest of the money. I was waiting till last moment and just when western union close the office to take the money transfer, they call me saying they still not have the money . I cancel the party at this moment. Then they called me many many times by my phone. And they promise me and to take the money after the flight some days befote but i didnt trust them and i said to cancel the parties. The was calling me all day one call after the other for hours. I was talking with them but i said the parties are cancel because was not the agree. They said was not possible to change the flight ticket and they will lose this money.The next day they send me and email telling me they just send more money but still not all the money and change the flight ticket without asking me. This people make decissions for themselves without asking meIt was the harder negotiation in my lifeAfter all this discussions i must to be with them for 12 days alone and i was afraid to be not good taking care of me, like food or to have the flight ticket for the come back canceled like happens to me other timesSo i didn´t go and was canceled. Was my decissision and i have the right because the didn´t made the agree.Now i am having emails from unknown person saying me this:
we will distroid you putaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa madraaaaaaaaaa you never dont back to israel if you come here you are dead man putaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa you will see what is mafiaaa putaaaaaaaaaa madraaaaaaaaaaaaaisrael hate you and we fuck you on the asss putaaaaaaaaaaaaa putaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa putaaaaaaaaaaaaa
An other ONE IN the facebook
man we not stop to put somthing abut u U NEVER COME TIO ISRAEL AND IF U COME WE KILL U OK REMEMBER THIS MSG FUKER PUTA
An other picture said i hate Israel
I want to said sorry to the people wants to go to this parties i canceled and to the organicers of the partiesAnd i want to say I LOVE ISRAEL with all my heart
Sorry for my poor english
Juan Verdera aka The Muses rapt"
In my humble opinion since the organisers didnt follow the original deal they aggreed with the artist then the artist has the right to cancel the party.Personally i am against paying artists 100% in advance (i worked with Tiesto and many big names in the past and they didnt asked all money in advance but just the 50% of their fee) but thats just me and since the organisers aggreed on this deal with the artist then they were obliged to follow this deal.
Now what the artist has to do is to return all the money he received so that he is also fair with his dealings.
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And unlike Juan, the people sending death threats definitely don't understand trance from its core......Sad to see a guy get such negative energy thrown at him simply for honoring his agreement...which was i won't play if I dont get the money upfront
The problem is many of these promoters think they can just play these games and put artists in a position where either the do it the promoters way, or risk coming off like an asshole.
Why not just pay the dude what he asks and alleviate all the problems in the first place?
No, some would rather play this stupid game...
if he has been around for 15+ years, I can assure you he has been ripped off many times during that period....some artists are just smart...
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J
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Posted : Mar 16, 2010 21:39
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Kids...
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Pavel
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Posted : Mar 16, 2010 22:30
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On 2010-03-16 20:59, Maska wrote:
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On 2010-03-15 03:45, Pavel wrote:
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On 2010-03-15 02:23, Sputer wrote:
burn the spiriual healing track with all the remixes and let the security man play it. same shit
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The single most overrated Psy Trance track ever. It's an average Nitzhonot track at best.
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They still book him after 15 years... must not be too overrated...
That song is tight...I remember it when it first came out in tokyo....so tight..so much emotion and it was just beautiful.....I spent days trying to find that song.... My friends from israel (kind of ironic now, considering the accusations of hate) were really the only ones that could help me and knew the song...but they kept saying juan verdera, not muses rapt.....I could not find it to save my life....then one day about two years later,my friend gave me this CD and sure enough there it was....It was beautiful....
I emailed him and explained to him how much I loved his track...Juan then told me an interesting story....Maybe crazy, but still awesome...
He had cancer and was told he was going to die....he then went into the studio and with all his emotion, made that track. he said he never felt such good energy....
and guess what, he went into remission and is still alive today....
So, this song is great...it imbodies the true meaning of trance from its very core...
and I believe that's why the beautiful people of israel, still love to bounce and stomp to it today...
overrated? I think not....
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Yea, I know the story behind this track, but it sounds so sloppy, even back when it was released. I can hear the emotions there and I see why people like it too much, but it's so damn cheesy, I donno.
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a3k
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Posted : Mar 16, 2010 22:37
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On 2010-03-16 20:59, Maska wrote:
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On 2010-03-15 03:45, Pavel wrote:
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On 2010-03-15 02:23, Sputer wrote:
burn the spiriual healing track with all the remixes and let the security man play it. same shit
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The single most overrated Psy Trance track ever. It's an average Nitzhonot track at best.
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They still book him after 15 years... must not be too overrated...
That song is tight...I remember it when it first came out in tokyo....so tight..so much emotion and it was just beautiful.....I spent days trying to find that song.... My friends from israel (kind of ironic now, considering the accusations of hate) were really the only ones that could help me and knew the song...but they kept saying juan verdera, not muses rapt.....I could not find it to save my life....then one day about two years later,my friend gave me this CD and sure enough there it was....It was beautiful....
I emailed him and explained to him how much I loved his track...Juan then told me an interesting story....Maybe crazy, but still awesome...
He had cancer and was told he was going to die....he then went into the studio and with all his emotion, made that track. he said he never felt such good energy....
and guess what, he went into remission and is still alive today....
So, this song is great...it imbodies the true meaning of trance from its very core...
and I believe that's why the beautiful people of israel, still love to bounce and stomp to it today...
overrated? I think not....
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you trying to show feelings to someone who doesn´t have them..Pavel is unfeelings person..i hear he only comes out at night, and likes bats 
ps: he doesn´t like garlic either ... |
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KINO OKO
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Posted : Mar 16, 2010 23:07
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On 2010-03-16 22:37, a3k wrote:
ps: he doesn´t like garlic either
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good. what we have to find out now are coutries he likes.
www.kinooko.pl |
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Hero #1
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Posted : Mar 16, 2010 23:31
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good. what we have to find out now are coutries he likes.
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VAtican City
Isnt pavel the pope of isratrance ? (atleast that's what i was told during my initiation here)
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Pavel
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