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Dennis the menace
DevilsDennis Sparris McHilton
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Posted : Sep 30, 2005 12:50
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2000 Years ago people thought the earth was flat and that the sun was goin around it...
Probably the same ppl who wrote the holy books and stuff.. Very wise people.
imho religion is just another way of controlling people and it actually works..
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Willy Wonka
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Posted : Sep 30, 2005 13:59
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Green Channel i have you as good example of what i shouldn't do to write things you do. So no DMT needed. About getting experienced with something we don't know, called schizophrenia. god is something we don't know yet so you can't be experienced with it even if you take DMT, althought taking DMT or any other psychedelic drug just make couple of steps back in reality understandment and proper judge. |
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Nathan
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Posted : Sep 30, 2005 14:54
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On 2005-09-30 12:50, Dennis the menace wrote:
2000 Years ago people thought the earth was flat and that the sun was goin around it...
Probably the same ppl who wrote the holy books and stuff.. Very wise people.
imho religion is just another way of controlling people and it actually works..
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True!
  -=The Meaning Of Life Is To Give Life A Meaning= |
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Willy Wonka
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Posted : Sep 30, 2005 15:32
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It is but idea of some holy books is quaite different as some used it. It has many wise things which were imposible to tell the time period it was written. Like milk and meat, vey unhealthy or God fighting snake alike creature, dinasaurs.
It were wise stories which meant to teach humanity wisdom but nature of human to be stupid and be controlled by so, religion has nothing to do with wise books it came from.
same thing with Carl Marks and Friedrich Engels theory, it is perfect but not for human once Lenin started to make it true it became total chaos and bloodpool.
So it only means theories a far from to be reality. Do not follow any ideologic stream it must be clear to any human but decide dependant on situation whether your action will be. |
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Sep 30, 2005 15:37
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On 2005-09-30 13:59, Willy Wonka wrote:
Green Channel i have you as good example of what i shouldn't do to write things you do. So no DMT needed. About getting experienced with something we don't know, called schizophrenia. god is something we don't know yet so you can't be experienced with it even if you take DMT, althought taking DMT or any other psychedelic drug just make couple of steps back in reality understandment and proper judge.
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Ok , you're right… I’m a crazy-schizophrenic-madman. At least I’m not the only one, at nights it doesn’t get lonely at the mental-asylum, because we are all communicating telepathically. I’m so relieved that we got broadband in my cell; otherwise I wouldn’t be able to poison the minds of sane and rational citizens as you’re self.
Now that you know my secret, please don’t tell it to anyone, I would be devastated …
Love and light you’re insane brother , "The Green Channel”.
(Ignorance is bliss, ha Willy?)
  "Love is a way of life"
(Gaia, Love, Nature, Shamanism (.2A.y.0a.hu.1a.sc.2a.), Terence McKenna) |
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Acidhive
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Posted : Sep 30, 2005 15:40
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And still they go on and on... Trapp seriously fucked you all, and what do we see? Some childish reactions to him and then you go on and on with all this SENSELESS posting. Read my lips: TRANCE = NO FAITH music. Got that?? I don't want any faith to fuck trance up for me. Trance is about music... you spell that M.U.S.I.C. and not about faith (any faith) at all. And especially not the christian faith, which is really singleminded. Now I'd like some moderator, ANY moderator, for fuck's sake, to CLOSE this topic.
  "Subconscious unravels at the point of death, and all time it has known erupts into a moment. As death extinguishes us, so we become it."
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Pt.
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Posted : Sep 30, 2005 15:53
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the world is ending in the year 2012 anyway, or is it?'
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Sep 30, 2005 15:53
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On 2005-09-30 15:40, Acidhive wrote:
And still they go on and on... Trapp seriously fucked you all, and what do we see? Some childish reactions to him and then you go on and on with all this SENSELESS posting. Read my lips: TRANCE = NO FAITH music. Got that?? I don't want any faith to fuck trance up for me. Trance is about music... you spell that M.U.S.I.C. and not about faith (any faith) at all. And especially not the christian faith, which is really singleminded. Now I'd like some moderator, ANY moderator, for fuck's sake, to CLOSE this topic.
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The word trance or inducing a state of trance descends from Shamanism. Shamanism is not a religion; however its spiritualism, which may in some instances engulf religion. For you personally trance music is only about the MUSIC, for me it’s not, you’re opinion is worth as much as my opinion.
The way you argument my brother , is like this: “my opinion is the right opinion and your's is wrong”, are you the self proclaimed all-knowing Guro of the trance community that can tell the rest of us what to believe and or think?
Love,
Acidhive.
  "Love is a way of life"
(Gaia, Love, Nature, Shamanism (.2A.y.0a.hu.1a.sc.2a.), Terence McKenna) |
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offthenutboom
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Posted : Sep 30, 2005 18:14
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On 2005-09-30 12:50, Dennis the menace wrote:
2000 Years ago people thought the earth was flat and that the sun was goin around it...
Probably the same ppl who wrote the holy books and stuff.. Very wise people.
imho religion is just another way of controlling people and it actually works..
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True!
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It has been proven then Egyptians and Mayans knew about our nice ball of life |
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offthenutboom
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Posted : Sep 30, 2005 18:39
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On 2005-09-30 15:32, Willy Wonka wrote:
It is but idea of some holy books is quaite different as some used it. It has many wise things which were imposible to tell the time period it was written. Like milk and meat, vey unhealthy or God fighting snake alike creature, dinasaurs.
It were wise stories which meant to teach humanity wisdom but nature of human to be stupid and be controlled by so, religion has nothing to do with wise books it came from.
same thing with Carl Marks and Friedrich Engels theory, it is perfect but not for human once Lenin started to make it true it became total chaos and bloodpool.
So it only means theories a far from to be reality. Do not follow any ideologic stream it must be clear to any human but decide dependant on situation whether your action will be.
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Yes exactly, that is why when i have gone to church on Sunday all this ppl missuse the bible and follow this rituals is a missleading fashion. Please.
There are ppl who missinterpret religions for their own benefit, there are those who missinterpret religion as a tool of control, but the true followers, those who give up their lifes, belongings or any other attachment for a sincere, honest and dedicated love for God... and follow this dogmatic rituals to achieve enlightment and transcend this material reality. An illusion created by our own senses. Isn't this the same principle of shamanistic rituals? Don't we go through a ritualistic psychedelic journey where our perceptions are crushed and open a new door of understanding about who we are. Not everyone's path to enlightment has to me our own. Some ppl need religion, some follow yoga, some become budhists, some dance under the influece of psychedelics... Religions have a reason, I am personally not a dogmatic person myself. I have only gone to church for my first comunion, weddings, baptisms... I have also gone to temples for friend jewish weddings. But I am not a true religious person. I think more than anything I am a shamanic person. It is where I belong. But, for others it works and that it is all that matters. So if religions are represented @ an event is because they are part of our nature, as well as atheists, communists, socialists, capitalists... And that is what is so great about trance, we are so different but we aknowledge @ the same time we are connected and usually we respect the others as they are. |
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UnderTow
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Posted : Sep 30, 2005 19:30
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On 2005-09-30 15:40, Acidhive wrote:
Now I'd like some moderator, ANY moderator, for fuck's sake, to CLOSE this topic.
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Here is a little suggestion: Moderate yourself and don't click on the thread.
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UnderTow
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Posted : Sep 30, 2005 19:34
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On 2005-09-30 13:59, Willy Wonka wrote:
althought taking DMT or any other psychedelic drug just make couple of steps back in reality understandment and proper judge.
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Well one thing that one can learn from psychedelic drugs (but many people don't) is that you can never trust your own mind 100%.
The thing is you can hardly EVER make a 100% correct judgement on things. Constant and absolute sobriety (whatever that is) isn't the ultimate solution either. Maybe the solution is a bit of everything in moderation.
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Sep 30, 2005 19:57
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On 2005-09-30 18:39, offthenutboom wrote:
But I am not a true religious person. I think more than anything I am a shamanic person. It is where I belong.
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I feel the same way.
  "Love is a way of life"
(Gaia, Love, Nature, Shamanism (.2A.y.0a.hu.1a.sc.2a.), Terence McKenna) |
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hafon
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Posted : Sep 30, 2005 21:54
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have to agre with acidhive here.
trance has nothing to do with religion and what has been posted here is a load of bollocks!! |
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offthenutboom
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Posted : Sep 30, 2005 22:04
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Cada uno es como es > Everyone is how they are... there are no bollocks in this conversation, just a lack of acceptance of other's points of view. |
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