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Jesus and Psychedelic Trance Music
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XP Voodoo
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Posted : Sep 28, 2005 19:46
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Although,I agree,psychedelic trance is just a music or whatever without any religion (On this days).
And the God is One |
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full_on
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Posted : Sep 28, 2005 20:34
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Pavel
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What do atheists scream when the cum?
 Everyone in the world is doing something without me |
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Bloodclot
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Posted : Sep 28, 2005 21:45
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Surprisingly this topic hasnt been locked.. stupid allegations here.
Religion will NEVER be a part of psytrance. Its all a freaking gimmick to use gods cos they're so 'trippy' looking and make you go 'WOW' while ur on some halucinatory drug.
KEEP IT OUT GOD DAMNIT!
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TRapp
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Posted : Sep 28, 2005 21:57
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I dont think you are all taking this seriously enough...
and really in the spirit of things being PLUR which means Peace Love Unity Respect, i dont think any of you are being very PLUR towards me or Jesus.
Its sad that these sort of things cannot be discussed like proper adults, but instead we stoop to the levels of Satan and mockith and make fun of each other , instead of Loving each other the way that Jesus loves you!!
LIke i have read in many other posts abuot psy culture borrowing from other culture and beliefs and engulfing this into the Psychedelic Trance scene....but then why are we so closed minded not to except Jesus into the scene, it would be nice to think that poeple could try and understand the point of views of others instead of always trying to disband and not accept , because it has become regular in the scene that we dont want to be mainstream but instead be different, Jesus excepts this and so does the other gods, like Zeus and Athena.
Do you shun people at a trance part if they where "i love jesus t-shirts", or pray on the dancefloor to the god almighty? Because thats not PLUR
Underlying thing is that we are too quick to judge people and Jesus, i bet they had alot of regrets when he hung on a cross then like suddenly came back to life...like i bet they didnt see that one coming...
RESPECT & PLUR!!!
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lolivier
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Posted : Sep 28, 2005 22:25
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I didn't read all the topic, but you people make me afraid!
no links betwen music and religious, betwen psytrance n religious?
did you forget all the shiva stuff in it?
I think the reason whay jesus is not in psytrance yet, is still the same why he came very late in human history!
But he will come, and your question actualy make him coming!
perhaps he will shows us the way to be salved fro bad psytrance spirit, as he did in history, and shows us true spirit!
I wait for him to come in our place and shows us somethingelse!
but I'm sure that's a lot of people here will gona put him again on a cross as you do now, and as history did! this is his destiny!
for myself i love jesus, i love his way of peace n love, and i honnor to know him and to love him!
peace n love! |
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mist
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Posted : Sep 28, 2005 22:45
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HandA
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Posted : Sep 28, 2005 22:49
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give us a break. I was just about to say "jesus"... but thats not prober for an atheist I guess. So can i pratice my atheism at parties too? fair is fair...not? |
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ben
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Posted : Sep 28, 2005 22:52
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TRapp:
what about u trying to understand that many many people don't want to see religion mixed in parties?
like me for ex, i am not against people who are religious, but i don't like it when i feel they push their religious beliefs onto me... so if they start praying on the dancefloor i won't like that... u don't have to pray like that if u want to, just do it in ur head...
about the whole jesus on the cross thing, well i feel sorry for u that u believe in all those stories... those stories were invented (and written) by human beings in order to provide a code of morale and to be able to justiy things that people could not explain (death,etc...)... |
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Nathan
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Posted : Sep 28, 2005 23:02
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What I like about Trance is that there are no religions or politics in it. Hindu things are only the spices for the atmosphere from my pov.
ps. I am an atheist.
-=The Meaning Of Life Is To Give Life A Meaning= |
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Willy Wonka
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Posted : Sep 29, 2005 12:01
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I always wondered whether atheist is oppposite to religious? or person who doesn't believe in god?
Since i think religious and to believe in god are different things. |
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TRapp
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Posted : Sep 29, 2005 12:05
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On 2005-09-28 23:02, Nathan wrote:
Hindu things are only the spices for the atmosphere from my pov.
ps. I am an atheist.
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that is no respect for the hindu faith....those gods and symbols are very important to alot of people in India and Mongolia and you just sort of say , oh its nothing and its okay to use them because they just provide good atmosphere.....
i am shocked and awed by this sort of attitude ....
i love how you all go on about no connection between religion and psy trance...
so if i made a killargh tune with some jesus context in it , you would , not listen to it, right??
but there are lotsa songs with contexts and little dialogs about the devil , and all that blah blah....but thats okay for atheist people, we respect that and PLUR that dont we , just as its no Jesus.
How can you say that hanging Jesus on a cross was just stories?? Do you not read the word of God, lotsa of people got hung on crosses, in Africa Shaka Zulu liked to do a similar thing , but instead he used a giant pole..., these things have happened in history, just like later on in time when the french giloteened people to death!!!
PSY TRANCE is about sharing and caring and loving, not hating, i think we have to much bad energy in trance scene , to much hate and killing, not enough PLUR!!!
too much double standards here, i think if we are going to remove religion from psy trance, we need to stop all dark psy, no more indian goda and things, no more altars at american parties (you know what happened to the israelites that made an altar...) no more bom shiva and chillums, no more , no more little quotes in songs from religous texts...and no more atheism. we can just all not believe in anything , except for psychedelic trance! and Jesus can be the farther of Psy Trance and guide us towards the white light!!!
RESPECT TO ALL HUMAN BEINGS!!!!
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Willy Wonka
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Posted : Sep 29, 2005 12:22
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exactly and religion is the opposite to psytrance from you words. that is christians now try to change their way doesn't mean you done all good in past, so with association we have religion is opposite to anything good. |
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Cyber Punk
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Posted : Sep 29, 2005 12:32
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On 2005-09-28 21:57, TRapp wrote:
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and really in the spirit of things being PLUR which means Peace Love Unity Respect, i dont think any of you are being very PLUR towards me or Jesus.
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Now tell me, why for the G-d's sake I have to love Jesus ? 
-=Lead System Designer=- |
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Sep 29, 2005 12:39
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This is a small chapter out one of my correspondences with Gopendra:
Well Gopendra, I’m so happy that you replied me so quickly. I feel your every word, to a degree that’s it almost scary. My heritage is Jewish, just like your heritage is Christian, all religions are talking about the same things and it’s only us people who are so focused on all the differences. I believe in the historical Jesus, his most important divine message to mankind was LOVE, which is the most essential of all messages to man (although he is definitely not alone in that aspect). People tend to believe that religions like ours in the west (Islam, Judaism and Christianity) are utterly different in comparison with religions like Buddhism and Hinduism. This notion is entirely wrong. In Buddhism the “salvation” is becoming one with god or the initiation into the fifth dimension. Our religions “salvation” is entering paradise, or coming up to God, where is the difference? It’s just different interpretations of the same truth. …
It does not matter what religion you have, we are all brothers and sisters under the universal God.
Like Terrence McKenna (twisted records guru lol) said, language and meaning are two different things (an umbrella is not an umbrella because we call it an umbrella, it’s an umbrella because it protects us from the rain), that’s why we need a universal language like we once had (maybe this is the encrypted story behind the towers of Babylon), a language before language.
All you non-belivers need to smoke a good hit of DMT. 
BTW: The Jews did not kill Jesus, Pilatos did.
"Love is a way of life"
(Gaia, Love, Nature, Shamanism (.2A.y.0a.hu.1a.sc.2a.), Terence McKenna) |
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