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Dagas
Dagas
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Posted : Aug 17, 2005 09:34
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the most important thing is to enjoy what you do... at the end the consumer, the listener (who enjoys and judge the music you make) only care if they like the music or not, they dont care if you use FL, cubase a real nord lead synth or a vst, so if u want to produce music use what you feel more enjoyable and comfortable with.... but try always to do your 100% best, not less, in music production laziness is a sin.
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Willy Wonka
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Posted : Aug 17, 2005 10:04
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TTrap, i'm not kid but i remember when i was 15 i won't like someone start with, "listen kid". It was long time ago thou so i can't say if now 15 years olds like being called "kids".
HandA i know your ex gf, so i know you a bit and your music and some friends who was members on this forum told me things you said in past. Like all wannabe musicians using software when you using hardware, also i know you teach Ziv that Fruity Loops sounds plastic untill she came to my studio and heard my music which i made three years ago with Fruity Loops. I won't compare you to me because it really nonsense but some friends of mine released music using Fruity Loops on very known labels where you and me wish to be released at. So sequencer doesn't matter. Simply you call Fruity Loops tracker when probably you don't even know the difference what is tracker and what is sequencer if you saw Fruity Loops even once. So choose you don't know what is tracker or you never seen Fruity Loops. And again non professional artists and their behavior is what makes sound plastic nor application you use.
Now for wannabe artists, don't you HandA wannabe artist ? You achieved something with your progressive wierdness? Don't you wannabe artist? You are imho, so it doesn't really matters what you say because all of us the same level, the ones who produce real music have no time to talk bullcrap here whole day as you and me do! So take your chill off the forum and start doing "not wannabe music"! |
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bandarlog
Bandarlog
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Posted : Aug 20, 2005 05:38
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²nd Willy Wonka
@TTrap and other narrowminded snobs: Sequencer+ same (good) vsti's+ same (good) vst's+ same hardware if you will: what's there not to get that it can lead to good results if it's in the right hands?
Did you know you can import midis from Mozart or any musician into any sequencer? 
fruity bashin's old  Look for a new program to laugh at 'cause there are in fact musicians who make music on it that can make you feel very smalll about your own music on your superduper 700€ sequencer. |
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TOPE
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Posted : Aug 20, 2005 09:38
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When you finally reach the quality you want in Fruity, you can just forget Logic...
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Ahhahahahahhahahahah....
So you are telling us that Fruity Loops has more quality than Logic??
Or you are just lazzy to get involved in logic????
Boa!!...
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Willy Wonka
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Posted : Aug 20, 2005 14:33
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Tope his statement is stupid as anti fruity loops statements. One thing for sure as i've said in the past Fruity Loops users can't imagine what they can do in Cubase or other top sequencer, although it doesn't mean Fruity Loops plastic or whatever! |
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Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle
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Posted : Aug 20, 2005 20:34
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On 2005-08-16 03:33, unfinishedsymphony wrote:
This might sound stupid, but how can i start producing trance? I really want to do this as a career. Trance has inspired me so much and i definetly feel as if this is what i will be doing. Can someone Give me some advice or whatever? -josh
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good for u man!!
i like this way of thinking and if u so young and have those ambitions im sure u can do it!!
good luck mate 
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jhanna
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Aug 21, 2005 00:36
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learn all you can about sequencers specially cubase (it rocks)!! accept nothing else.
learn all about VST and instruments and efx. learn some music theory...listen to a lot of music. slip fruity.. there u go... |
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TRapp
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Posted : Aug 22, 2005 12:06
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On 2005-08-20 05:38, bandarlog wrote:
@TTrap and other narrowminded snobs: Sequencer+ same (good) vsti's+ same (good) vst's+ same hardware if you will: what's there not to get that it can lead to good results if it's in the right hands?
Did you know you can import midis from Mozart or any musician into any sequencer?
fruity bashin's old Look for a new program to laugh at 'cause there are in fact musicians who make music on it that can make you feel very smalll about your own music on your superduper 700€ sequencer.
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er hi banderlog ....
lets get some shit straight...firstly if you learn to read....i never bashed fruity at all...i said start in fruity and move on...
"did you know you cannot record into fruity with a microphone"
um yes...believe it or not Cubase and Logic give you this amazing power....it can even go as far as incredible multitracking capabilites...using hardware with your software etc etc
anyways,...i wasnt saying dont use fruity cos its crap...(i hav made some cool shit in fruity, i just think the sequencing is limited and with less precise control than other sequencers) all i was saying is ....dont limit urself to fruity, the dude wants to be a producer....any real producer(and i am not talking psy trance) will laugh at him if he says....i sequence and produce with fruity....
if you go into a real studio, like the one i sometimes work in...they have things called microphones...hence the need and the use for BETTER SEQUENCERS and TRACKING apps....
this is the only point i am trying to get across
SO PLEASE DONT BE SO CLOSED MINDED...and expand yourself beyond the bounds of Fruity Loops...
thanks
p.s....yes i did know you could import Midi from mozart or any musician into any sequencer.....and did you know that thats called cutting and pasting
i still rate Cubase in the end or Logic for that matter is more powerful and better suited to production overall. thats just my own opinion, but if you wana use fruity be my guest , have fun and enjoy yourself!
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S7a5
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Aug 22, 2005 12:45
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well said TRapp
To add more things I once worked with fl and wanted to export midi file and always failed. Is it me or it's the app? I mean usually when u go to file->export->midi it SHOULD export midi file with all data in it but not just some 1kb file with nothinng in it. ye ye you gonna tell me now to go to macros->prepare midi for export etc etc but isn't it just stupid? ohh and another thing wot the hell is this playlist? ImagineLine was trying to come up with user friendly application but in fact I'd say its easier to run an alien nuclear station than workin with this app. And this all comes from my own experience not other people's opinion. I worked with IT, Reason, Cubase and many other apps and I had the worst experience with FL believe it or not. Ohh and the audio engine in FL stinks !! |
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orange
Fat Data
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Posted : Aug 22, 2005 12:53
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so trapp u say that the 5 chill out tracks i made and my girlfriend sing to the microphone and i made with fruity is not possible hhmmm... thats a new one so how did i did it hhmmm... ??? maybe i did not do it with fruity maybe i was dreaming that i did hhhmmmm... im confused and so is my girfriend and so is the microphone...!!!
and all those artists releasing great music using fl are not realy using fl??? hhmmmm... i think they are confused to!
maybe you still have fruity loops 3 or maybe you think fruity is not capable of producing good music or maybe you think great music comes only from logic cubase etc maybe you are just ungry at the name cos fruity loops is a childish name so iff cubase was called juicy patterns it want be so good as it is and iff fruity was called super pro it would be more apreciated in your head????
dont judge a book by its front page read it all first and then see what it suits you and dont offend all this people that use it and make music on it.
its lame to do so and fairly egopathetic stick on your pro app and let as amateurs copy and paste our amateur music in fruity loops its our dicission to do so!!!
orange-atropa
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TOPE
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Posted : Aug 22, 2005 19:59
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I agree with TRapp you can start with Fruity but you have to move on after you realised what is audio sequecing. Or just use as a complement of your sequencer (logic,cubase),i think even that is a waste of time!!!!
The question is: where you want to take your music????? - for me is the highest as possible can ,and for sure it's not gonna be with Fruity as my main platform!!!
Good luck though!!!!
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EYB
Noized
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Posted : Aug 22, 2005 21:05
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On 2005-08-22 19:59, TOPE wrote:
I agree with TRapp you can start with Fruity but you have to move on after you realised what is audio sequecing. Or just use as a complement of your sequencer (logic,cubase),i think even that is a waste of time!!!!
The question is: where you want to take your music????? - for me is the highest as possible can ,and for sure it's not gonna be with Fruity as my main platform!!!
Good luck though!!!!
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U know a shit about sequencing.
This thread moves into a kiddish 'i use the best sequencer, the only one' thread.
TOPE show me ur high end audio stuff u made with a 'pro' sequencer.
Different people, different sequencers. I make killer music with fruity. So Tsabeat, LiquidSpace, Rinkadink, Squaremeat, a lot of other psy producers. Look at dif. styles and u will see fl much more accepted coz people don't talk shit about 'highest quality' all the time but they DO high quality. Even Mike Oldfield prefers Fl nowadays, coz of its WORKFLOW.
This means nothing. There are thousant of people doing ultra fat music with logic, samplitude, protools and also live. U see it is the user who makes the big good tracks, the sequencer is a very important tool.
I used cubase, now i use fruity. It has got the better workflow for ME.
So if u wanna start producing best is not to listen to any of this shit.
There is no single solution for making a nice track. If u are gifted u can write a killer track just with paper and a pencil.
It is funny how people again try to look better with there 'better sequencer' but in the end the final tracks will show who is a good musician and who not.
Peace and Love EYB
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TOPE
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Posted : Aug 22, 2005 23:08
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EYB you got nasty just because you didn't agree with me or because you have a complex about your music? Let me guess...is too simple!!!!
Ok you make killer music...mmm....GOOD for you mate i will pay atention in the future about "it" !!!
In way i feel sorry for you but i hope you succede in your fruity music specially now that you know a new word " WORKFLOW " !!!!
EYB-The Fruity Workflowed ...
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EYB
Noized
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Posted : Aug 22, 2005 23:47
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Keep cool brother and please try to get my point.
I really don't care what u think about anything.
I like fruity, u don't like it. I don't care.
U say cuabse is better, maybe, i just don't care.
All i love and care about is to make music.
Make music how u like to make it. The results matter.
And i don't need nor want to argue with u about fruity and cubase.
Different people different sequencers.
Peace and respect my friend
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tHuJoN
Freakulizer / Khainz
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Posted : Aug 23, 2005 02:23
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It's great to start with fruity ...i did the same ...
realy easy to work with ... and very fast to get what u want ...
but somewhen u will go for Cubase or Logic ...
I did it because there u can play more with the arrangement ...and with directeffects on wavefiles  And the quality is a bit better ...
but Fruity is nice to start with ...
Maybe u should give it a try ...
The first thing uneed is a sequencer ... doesen't matter with one ... the best is u feel comfortable with it, and not lost
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