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Speakafreaka
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jun 26, 2007 20:35
G-major phrygian does not exist.

how can something be major and modal at the same time?

and if you only write with just the notes in the scale, its gonna sounds pretty bland, pretty quick.

So to be clear, you are telling me to use a non existant key, and when you admit you don't understand my post then criticse it?

How about you use your brain           .
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Jun 26, 2007 20:37
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Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : Jun 26, 2007 20:51
could u name some chords progression that will fit ?

is the correct scale is

G , A-flat , B-flat , C , D , E-flat , F-sharp ?(or should i say G-flat...)
?


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Alias
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jun 26, 2007 20:59
look i have not musical education....all i learned by myself!
there is no such a thing G-minor phrygian!(phrygian only major)

maybe i understand what you mean....you think that i mean Gmajor!

not!

the base key is G ....the white G on key editor!

the Scale: G- major phrygian!

root keys: G, Ab, Bb, C , D, Eb, F ......on key editor!

good luck!
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jun 26, 2007 21:05
In every collaboration there are differences of opinion, about both artistic and technical subjects. With more collaborators (none of whom know each other, and most of whom don't speak English as a first language) the potential for conflict and misunderstanding multiplies. Let's not forget that we're all trying to work together towards a common goal, and that we're not here to prove how much better at music we are than anyone else; it's not necessary to be 'right' all the time as long as the group as a whole moves forwards together. Take it easy with each other hey
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Speakafreaka
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jun 26, 2007 21:07
"G , A-flat , B-flat , C , D , E-flat , F-sharp ?(or should i say G-flat...)
?
"

thats part of it, when you have the flattened second it gets harder to develop complex chord progressions IMO.

and that scale is correct Tsabeat aside from its Fnatural.

You can't have sharpened notes in a flattend scale, so say for example, you wanted to use the note on the keyboard Fsharp, you would call it G flat in these circumstances, however, to define a scale it makes no sense to talk about flattening the root note.

I will do my best to come up with some nice progressions tonight in the (*ahem* alias pay attention ) phrygian mode starting on G ("major phrygian" makes no logical sense, the only major mode, is the major scale) and post them up.

And I'm not trying to prove I'm right, or know more, I'm merely trying to establish where we are going. It seems clear there is some pretty muddled thinking about this, so surely it makes sense to clear it up?
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Alias
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jun 26, 2007 21:14
that what i trying to explain mate!

the scale itself major.....not the key!

should i say G-phrygian major?...its correct?

also this is fucking problem to explain....with ehglish musical terms!

in russia....we are not using this terms....like : C,D,E,F......etc!

we using.....Do, Re'minor, Sol bimol

and stuff like that!



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Speakafreaka
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jun 26, 2007 21:18
mate, any scale where the third is flattened is clearly minor in nature whatever you call the notes.

However, we have now established the mode we are using, so everyone is happy.           .
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Seppa


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Posted : Jun 26, 2007 21:41
I'm a bit confused here not an expert, i dont have much knowledge of Music rudiments.

But I do know that a g major use the same notes as an E minor .

So the only sharp here is F.

Also we should be able to shift scale to make interesting as some point in the track no?

Or are we going for this

Quote:
"G , A-flat , B-flat , C , D , E-flat , F-sharp ?(or should i say G-flat...)
?
"



Alias
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  984
Posted : Jun 26, 2007 21:44
i dont understand

what is "sharp" ....and "flat"

G sharp....is Sol bimol ?.....
G flat ....is ....just Sol?

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UnderTow


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Posted : Jun 26, 2007 21:46
Mates, weren't we going to have a 2 or 3 three basslines and vote on which one we prefer and then move on from that?

So IMO, untill we have a common bassline, there isn't much point in discussing chord progressions or whatever. The chosen bassline will determine where we can go from there...

With so many contributors, lets just let things flow (within reason) and see where we end up.

UnderTow
Speakafreaka
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jun 26, 2007 21:47
I think (!) we are going for the phrygian mode

notes being this

Gnatural, Aflat, Bflat, Cnatural, Dnatural, Eflat, Fnatural, Gnatural.

the scale of g major has nothing to do with it (as far as I can see)

Perhaps the discussion about why is for the music theory thread - can we all agree to these notes as a basic point to work around until otherwise instructed?
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Alias
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jun 26, 2007 21:51
Quote:

On 2007-06-26 21:46, UnderTow wrote:
Mates, weren't we going to have a 2 or 3 three basslines and vote on which one we prefer and then move on from that?

So IMO, untill we have a common bassline, there isn't much point in discussing chord progressions or whatever. The chosen bassline will determine where we can go from there...

With so many contributors, lets just let things flow (within reason) and see where we end up.

UnderTow



you are wright!
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subconsciousmind
SCM

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Posted : Jun 26, 2007 21:57
only one bassline for the whole song?



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Alias
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  32
Posts :  984
Posted : Jun 26, 2007 22:06
we need eskimo killer melodic bassline           www.myspace.com/aliasix
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