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Babaluma
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Sep 18, 2012 22:24
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On 2012-09-18 21:49, jekvan wrote:
I want to master my last track,so how do you do it?How much it costs,what to send?




What Colin said!

All relevant details on my web site in my sig.

The higher quality the source file (and that goes for the whole chain, from tracking through mixing), the higher quality the master can be.

GIGO, polishing turds vs. gilding lilies etc.          http://hermetechmastering.com : http://www.discogs.com/artist/Gregg+Janman : http://soundcloud.com/babaluma
PoM
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Posted : Sep 20, 2012 06:18
my version https://dl.dropbox.com/u/5107801/Pawnsphinx_PoM.wav.zip

it would need i work more on the loudness chain for cleaner and punchier sound, work more on the stereo.. check translation (not familiar with the acoustic yet ,did 3/4 on cans)
Taisto
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Posted : Sep 20, 2012 12:56
Hey! This is very good idea making masters from the same track. I can hear a lot of differences between masters. And i know my favourite one so far.

Maybe you should do another one, trance or house track for the people who are now wondering which mastering service they should go for.           - - - - -
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PoM
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Posted : Sep 20, 2012 14:12
i uplodaed mine early this morning and then replaced it as something i didn t like in it (still dont like it much tbh i find it sound kinda boring ,havent used colorfull stuff , like tape emu and co.. and the tonal balance could be better but right now no time for it, i will wait comments and try to redo it better )
Babaluma
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Posted : Sep 20, 2012 15:58
I'd definitely be up for doing it again with a Trance tune! Let's get this one finished up first though! I intend to spend next Monday downloading and having a good listen to all the contenders alongside the original, and will post my notes on Monday or Tuesday, time permitting. I'm imagining they are all going to sound pretty good, but different.

The idea wasn't so much for punters to be able to choose which one they like the sound of more, but more for the people mastering to be able to learn from each other. But yeah, by all means, if you really like one more than the others, then please hire that one!           http://hermetechmastering.com : http://www.discogs.com/artist/Gregg+Janman : http://soundcloud.com/babaluma
PoM
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Sep 20, 2012 16:03
yeah i m really intrested in the way you guys aproached equing on this tune, what you did and why
ansolas
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Posted : Sep 20, 2012 19:24
It would be nice to put all solutions in one player so that you can directly compare the results

At best by NOT using the degrading Soundcloud player.

Why not just use a html5 audio player ? such as jPlayer* which supports even wav playback in some browsers:



source: http://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_audio.asp

* http://www.jplayer.org/latest/demo-02/?theme=0
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Babaluma
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Posted : Sep 20, 2012 19:43
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Why not just use a html5 audio player ? such as jPlayer* which supports even wav playback in some browsers?



Why not just use a DAW so you can manually change the gains to the same perceived loudness, for fairer A/B comparisons? I'm pretty sure all the people who have submitted masters here have a DAW and know how to use it. No one's stopping you using your app of choice, of course!           http://hermetechmastering.com : http://www.discogs.com/artist/Gregg+Janman : http://soundcloud.com/babaluma
makus
Overdream

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Posted : Sep 20, 2012 21:11
^^ True that fuck web players they color the sound.

          
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xoC
Cubic Spline

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Posted : Sep 20, 2012 23:22
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On 2012-09-20 21:11, makus wrote:
^^ True that fuck web players they color the sound.






yeah but aren't they vintage sounding ?

          http://www.storm-mastering.com
Upavas
Upavas

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Posted : Sep 21, 2012 00:52
Ok, I am really very new to mastering, I find mastering to be a very subjective part of music production, I have a bit of a hard time finding what someone (even myself with my own tracks) would be looking for, especially since the artist in question did not leave comments or anything, except that he does not like over compression. I also lack some much needed ms tools at the moment...

I would greatly appreciate some feedback to this mastering attempt of mine on the link below.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/xaawly

And I must say, thank you for posting this. Great idea, this gives a lot of people the chance to really learn something about mastering... great idea!           Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
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Babaluma
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Posted : Sep 21, 2012 01:39
No worries. Looking forward to reading everyone's comments next week!

Although most people these days seem to start to learn mastering on their own tunes (myself included), it probably isn't the greatest idea. One of the main things about mastering is that you hand it off to an objective third party with great ears and great gear, for a fresh perspective.

You'd be surprised the amount of clients I have that do only give as much info as this one. Another part of the art is deciphering what they mean, and then knowing how to apply that to their music. A clear chanell of communication is very important.

I still feel like a beginner and still get it wrong some times... Good to be always learning though!           http://hermetechmastering.com : http://www.discogs.com/artist/Gregg+Janman : http://soundcloud.com/babaluma
makus
Overdream

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Posted : Sep 21, 2012 02:07
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On 2012-09-20 23:22, xoC wrote:
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On 2012-09-20 21:11, makus wrote:
^^ True that fuck web players they color the sound.






yeah but aren't they vintage sounding ?






Somewhat, but more on a cold digital side           
www.overdreamstudio.com
Taisto
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Sep 21, 2012 02:16
Yea, i always looking for certain presence for a good mastering. How elements of the song are standing in the air. How sounds are gently touching your ears and make kind of cinematic feeling. Over comressed is often too close to me, i like to keep distance and enjoy every part of the song. Balance is very important. Ambient or trance, no matter what music is it.
I highly respect people who has ears to make that happen. Ofcource mixing is even more important, but mastering should give a nice boost to good mix and make it breathe.
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Padmapani


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Posted : Sep 21, 2012 02:51
anyone can have a go? i have never tried mastering anything other than my own tracks and i'm not near my best pair of speakers anytime soon, but i'm sure curious as to how my attempts at mastering sound compared to the mastering pros here in this thread. so here's my try:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/sw3xw8
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