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israel - MOKSHA PROJECT,57 INDEPENDENCE RAVE,with: SENSIENT(australia),&ERASER vs YOJALKA(finla
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suomi guy
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Posted : Apr 29, 2005 15:43
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i'm not complaining about the artists that making money i'm complaining about how today everything is about money in parties...organizers do everything to bring as many ppl as they can not caring about what crowd will be and the cost of it...ok so fucking what if they bring artists from out country? until last year every party with artists from finland (Texas Faggott, Squaremeat, Kiwa, etc.) was small party that cost chip...for the record even in this NYE Candy brought Lumuohappo from finland to a small party and very chip also...so i don't agree only Moksha can afford to bring some artist from out of state, moksha just using it to bring as much ppl as they can no matter the kind thats why it also got such a veraiety of styles and they make their parties only on holydays.
when you make such a veraiety of style what happens is that all the ppl that come for the music they like come for just 2 hours...the suomi for eraser vs yojalka...the full on for dot com...the prog lovers for sensient...they all pay full price for just one set they like...is this sound logic to you?
  "My single one to cross the ways that have heart, any way that has heart. That way I cross, and the only test that is worth is to cross all its length. And that way I cross watching, watching, out of breath"
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Fu Hsi
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Posted : Apr 29, 2005 16:47
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Yeah it sounds completely logical to me, and if u want small friends parties, no one stops u. I dont really understand what is all the fuss here? No one points a gun at u saying u have to come. If it not your cup of tea then just find your cup of tea man... As simple as that...
Actually I personally prefere small events of friends myself over a super crowded fest... but many ppl like the big crowd... Everyone and his own Suomi Guy, and I advise u to look for what u like instead of bitching about Moksha here. They do a lot for the scene, and I played in their parties back 5 years ago, and never it was their intention to make parties for 200 Suomi freaks. They went doing big events all the time, since I know them. They brought Tomek from Bigwigs 5 years ago, and since then they always bring someone from the alternative side of Trance scene.
Instead of thanking them, that they actually make other, more commercial crowds, know about this alternative, and be aware of other possibilities in Trance music, you come hard on them, because egoistically u weren't satisfied. You would ofcourse prefer to have Eraser and Yojalka for you and your friends in the living room.
Think about that
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suomi guy
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Posted : Apr 29, 2005 17:00
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On 2005-04-29 16:47, Fu Hsi wrote:
Instead of thanking them, that they actually make other, more commercial crowds, know about this alternative, and be aware of other possibilities in Trance music, you come hard on them, because egoistically u weren't satisfied. You would ofcourse prefer to have Eraser and Yojalka for you and your friends in the living room.
Think about that
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i'm not talking egoistically man i'm talking for the ppl from the suomi and also the full on crowd that come for the music.
and yes ofcourse i'll prefer to have Eraser and Yojalka for me and my friends in the living room.  who wouldn't?!
"My single one to cross the ways that have heart, any way that has heart. That way I cross, and the only test that is worth is to cross all its length. And that way I cross watching, watching, out of breath"
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sagiv
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Posted : Apr 29, 2005 17:31
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hello to you suomi guy,
as you see my name is sagiv and i'm part of Moksha-project teame.
i think that you have a basic miss understending how we act..so becouse you a manthen it i will shere with you our logical thinking 
all of the ppl. in Moksha-project making a party becouse we love the trance music, the trance culture,the ppl and of curse the nature .
the part of the variety of stayle in the party is becuse we alwais think that in evert part of the party some stayle will work and b more appropriate..
so we every time try to make thise combinashion that you and all the grait ppl. will feel some development in the music in the party .
i thinking personaly that you can fined quality in every stayle of trance music, you only have to b opened.. maybi you will discaver a new artist or musice that make you happy or dancing, the all point is to discover new thing no?..
think on that b open, with positive attitude you can reach higher then you thinking.
peace & love.
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suomi guy
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Posted : Apr 29, 2005 17:55
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i am open...its just frustrating that there are maybe 2-3 parties in my style in a year and now they all just with one act i like and its only on holydays (whats make it commercial) and i understand its expensive to bring artists from out of state but ppl like me need to pay full price for only 2 hours (and i don't want to miss that act its once in a lifetime).
the only thing left to say is good luck with the party and i hope i'll be there.
"My single one to cross the ways that have heart, any way that has heart. That way I cross, and the only test that is worth is to cross all its length. And that way I cross watching, watching, out of breath"
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Nomolos(Zenon Rec.)
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Posted : Apr 29, 2005 18:59
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suomi whats the big deal here mate?
your frustrated for not having suomi parties...ok....what does Moksha have to do with that???
moksha have a big steady crowed which allowes them to bring who ever they want to Israel...now i am a Minimal man myself which i think has even less "fans" in Israel(and the world)than suomi....and now i have a chance to see Tim Sensient! which wouldnt really get around to Israel with out this production.....i can say i would rather have him play at my own party with the close friends and with a more tech/minimal lineup but can i make it happen with out selling my kids later to pay the bill????? NO!!!!(u need a lot of money to cover and not enough diehard fans around)
in order for moksha to be able to bring quality acts of "underground" geners(minimal,suomi,tech whatever...) they need to gather all the groups of diff' trancers.......so some of the minimal guys some suomi acidfreax some tech and all thoese that just come to enjoy with out asking for specific music makes it happen!!
Cheers.
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suomi guy
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Posted : Apr 29, 2005 19:44
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first of all i didn't blame moksha at anything i'm talking generally...and my point is not the few suomi parties in a year my point is that when finnally there is a party with suomi music its only one set... thats how it goes this days and i'm sick of it...and as far as i understand you all will also prefer to hear this acts at smaller parties with 1 or 2 diffrent styles.
anyway i have nothing left to say i rest my case, didn't come to blame of fight.
"My single one to cross the ways that have heart, any way that has heart. That way I cross, and the only test that is worth is to cross all its length. And that way I cross watching, watching, out of breath"
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snick
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Posted : Apr 29, 2005 21:02
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hehe good promotion suomi (:
and agein. 10-x alot moksha. for this great line up !
im dreaming to be at a party with SENSIENT something like 2 year's. im so fucking excited lol !
PERFECT STRANGER make's me happy too. and ofcourse ERASER Vs YOJALKA r very interesting
me Too. so see you there (:
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kobi_palombo
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Posted : Apr 29, 2005 21:14
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I also need to pay full price for only 2 hours
and many ppl like me
but i cant miss ERASER Vs YOJALKA live act in the morning 
cus they not always in israel
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psy^soldier
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Posted : Apr 29, 2005 21:56
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maby sensient will suprise you soumi poeple:] |
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shlomi
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Posted : May 1, 2005 00:23
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"hay u ...."
this line up is the most interesting
from all the parties in that day...
I'm proud to work with u "moksha-project"!!
good vibe and coulerfull parties..
keep on...
c u there...
The "KuchnicK" 
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Psygirl®
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Posted : May 1, 2005 00:34
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Good luck Moksha crew!
Crazy line up that's gonna fry your brain!
Cheerios
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E-Yon
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Posted : May 1, 2005 01:03
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Dudu, Ronen and the rest of the crew, all the best. I love ur uniqness and the fact the you do make things different! Making people enjoy heire time at the party, and the people who miss it, make them feel bad they werent there...
You made Nomolos a happy man!
Running lineup!!! like always! |
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timsensient
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Posted : May 1, 2005 08:31
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On 2005-04-29 21:56, psy^soldier wrote:
maby sensient will suprise you soumi poeple:]
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hehe maybe your right ya know...i have big respect for the suomi style (Pelin Pala is one of my alltime favourite acts) and my new music (which hasnt been heard yet)while still dark and techy minmimal - it for sure has been influenced toward more quirky, funky sounds...its not so crazy of course but the influence is there. Im really excited and looking foward to my first time in Isreal thnx Moksha for the chance and see you all soon!!
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bmf
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Posted : May 1, 2005 08:56
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i am happy about the idea to start the party with some raggae show ,eyam its great band i was few times in there show very good one.
and then all the rest of the line up great: sensient, eraser & yojalka, blt, dotcom wooooooow.
we gonna be there .... |
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