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Is warez era going to end?
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H2O
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Posted : Dec 27, 2004 02:38
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fire_dance
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Posted : Dec 27, 2004 04:46
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Hope that warez era will lead us to open source era, cause I don't see other ways to stop it than breaking the net, "1984"-style.. the companies making the best music soft are constantly being mergering by the industry bigwigs , if you mentioned..
And bigger the money -> lesser the concern about creativity in our contradictory world, where $800 for some is half a monthly salary and for another person in another country it's the year of hard working, f.e. Of course, it's sad that the programmers have less money, but opposite, the payble noosphere is not really glorious..
Do you have some old folklore stories in your countries, like we have here, about some epic hero approaching a crossroad with the stone indicating "will lose your horse if you go to the left, will sink in the swamp to the right and will find your death straight on? =) I think we have similar dilemma here.. open source is a more natural way of human evolution  |
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Lithium
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Posted : Dec 27, 2004 15:16
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On 2004-12-26 06:11, dNETv2 wrote:
People have enough money to go out and buy a top end RME card or a massive PC/mac but they feel it's 'stupid' to pay for a sequencer. Chances are you don't even use the RME to its full potential... You're just caught up in... "this is the best".
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well i know programmers spend lots of time workin on a massive sequencer like cubase, but for me the difference between paying for any software or a soundcard or synth is pretty obvious. you pay 800 for cubase which is one simple dvd, or you pay 800 for a soundcard of a synth , a real piece of hardware, a piece of machinery..
i belive professional users should buy original sofware, like H2O warez sofware always say "don´t make money using warez software / try before buy ", but for most of us isratrance amateur users, how on earth can we afford to pay that amout of money for a program? besides, labels like steinberg make fortunes selling software to all those big companies who acttualy have to pay for cubase cause their are also makin lots of money using cubase.
we also have to consider that the actual price cubase is costing is not for comon simgle users but for big enterprises, like most other professional software.
so my opinion is long live warez, and there is no such thing as " makin one feel good about buying software " unless someone is fully rich and has nothing more interesting to do with the money |
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High Pulse
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Posted : Dec 28, 2004 05:35
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UnderTow
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Posted : Dec 31, 2004 14:46
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On 2004-12-28 05:35, DarkPsy wrote:
well about warez . would be good they make a WAVES 5 gold , master or diamond for mac . im needing to try it before spending more than 4000 euros 
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Get a PC. ;-P
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H2O
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Posted : Dec 31, 2004 16:09
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Lithium this discussion is not about excuses for piracy. Fact is that Microsoft and anti piracy groups in 2005 will start massive war. There are doungles that crackers can brake, like Cubase SX3 or Halion3.
Steinberg do not ask you to buy their software but they can sue you if you release material using cracked software. This forum is the best place to find artists who publicly claim to use warez, like Darkpsy.
All kind of piracy is about respect to author. To say that Cubase not worth 800$ and RME card worth it because i can touch and see it means fundamental point of view at middle ages. Virtual doesn't need to be free, there are also free product that you can use, many sequencers, vst/vsti but your choise to use pirated software and search an excuses. That's really bad. |
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Cosmos Mariner
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Posted : Dec 31, 2004 23:09
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the only difference between the cubase and the soundcard is that the cubase is easier to steal
 sound is vibration |
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High Pulse
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Posted : Jan 1, 2005 20:32
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yeah H2o warez rulezzzzzzzz , eheh first i download to see if it worth .. and if it worth eheh I BUY IT
everything i have at home is original  so u dont need to be so rude , eheh did u never used cracked software ? eheh
so dont say does bullshits man .
warez is something that everybody take profit , and dont say that ,, haa mee .. never ... LOL . because is a big lie .. almost all of u have used cracked softwarez .. so .. this is totally nonsense man ..
plur .
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H2O
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Posted : Jan 2, 2005 18:36
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Darkpsy this was a warning for you, keep your mouth shut. Don't over smart. |
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Jan 2, 2005 18:58
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As i always say ;Try before buy ...
"Love is a way of life"
(Gaia, Love, Nature, Shamanism (.2A.y.0a.hu.1a.sc.2a.), Terence McKenna) |
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H2O
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Posted : Jan 2, 2005 19:01
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The trial time is 24hours, btw. |
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High Pulse
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Posted : Jan 2, 2005 21:03
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keep my mouth shut ? humm i really don't think so .. so the thing is .. if i were rich ,i would buy , because if i would dislike the software ill put it in a corner , and i would buy a new one , different one wi th no prob ... but poor ppl , some medium class can't afford does things , or if they can , they whant to be shure of what to use ... and my friend does ppl use warez to see wich is good , but ok .. much of them buy , but much of them too released with cracked software .. but this is a option of each one ! "HIGH PULSE" AKA FUSION OF DARKPSY PROJECTS
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art
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Posted : Jan 4, 2005 13:25
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If it's educational, let freedom reign.
If its business, its business. |
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Lithium
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Posted : Jan 4, 2005 14:53
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the be honest i don´t care if in 2005 there will be a massive war from microsoft and other anti-piracy groups... there is plenty of good software already cracked in the market, so i guess they are the ones who have the most to loose.
if people don´t try´people won´t buy
so instead of makin more money as these "anti piracy groups " want thet´ll make less and less money...
instead of helpin amateur musicians (who don´t buy software) to become professional musicians (who buy software) ... that would be a much wiser way of doing things...
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sy000321
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Posted : Jan 4, 2005 15:54
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i think saying "i need to try software before buying it so i need warez" is a big lie !
Try to do so next time you need a car: Go to a car dealer and steal a car for a week or so then try to return it or buy it from the same dealer saying you got it borrowed only to see if it did fit your needs.
You can go to a music-store and try whatever software you wish to buy before spending any money on it or downloading it cracked from the internet.
Also, cubase wouldn't be so expensive if steinberg hadn't to make up for the HUGE losses they have with all that WAREZ laying around.
That said, i should point to the fact that i think music software (or any other PRO software, entertainment is another subject) should be free to whom is learning and not making ANY MONEY with it.
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