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Is this true ? Audio question
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Conny
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Posted : Jan 28, 2009 14:16:45
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I´ve heard that an instrument has different volume depending on which notes are played ?
Is this true.Do higher notes within the same instrument percieved to have higher volume
than lower note ? |
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segment 7
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Posted : Jan 28, 2009 14:22
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i think it's just that it's our ears pick up high frequencies easier than low frequencies, so if you have a lead on say c4 you'll probably hear more frequencies than on c3. i don't know if its actually genuinely louder.
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faxinadu
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Posted : Jan 28, 2009 14:24
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gutter
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Posted : Jan 28, 2009 15:26
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I think this is happening in every sound.
Human hearing perception is more focused in the mid area of the frequency spectrum , than the low and very high area
That means that we listen better in the range of 1-4/5 Khz. So if the note has a fundamental inside the "good" range of our hearing we perceive it as louder, cause we listen better in that specific range
Same goes for the hole aspect of mixing.
best mixes (not for me, but as hearing perception and mix) are focused and give more emphasis to the low end and the high end , the mid area is , or has to be softer mixed and lower in loudness , simply because we hear there better
check some commercial mixes, especially english ones on a spectrum analyzer and watch the movement of the hole wave.
And this type of mixing is the most essential for dance oriented electronic music as i have understand, these are the mixes that are most enjoyable for the ears and have "space" and "depth" or "clearness"
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Trip-
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Posted : Jan 28, 2009 15:29
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Chemogen
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Posted : Jan 28, 2009 16:50
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I believe human ears are most sensitive to around 4k, which is (iirc) the fundamental frequency of a baby's cry.
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naga
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Posted : Jan 28, 2009 17:24
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i think it's called Dynamics =)
and you can get rid of "this problem" by compression and listening monitors with pretty flat frequency response.
you need different power to bring up different frequences and speakers color some frequences so maybe you hear some frequences a little louder =)
ps. i'm getting drunk so this can be deleted
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faxinadu
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Posted : Jan 28, 2009 18:02
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jan 28, 2009 18:11
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What Trip said + besides instruments having uneven resonances and speakers not being entirely flat, there are also the resonant characteristics of different tooms to be considered. One of the main problems of standing waves and monitoring position.
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Conny
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Posted : Jan 28, 2009 18:55
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well often i end up with this problem when arranging songs , i have an instrument lets say organ at one point in the song where it plays bass notes and the volume sounds ok.
But when the same instrument plays higher notes in an other part of the song the notes often sound "to loud" even if the instruments has the same volume as when the bassnotes where played.
How should i solve this ? , should the volume be lower when the instrument plays higher notes ?
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Upavas
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Posted : Jan 28, 2009 21:27
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onionbrain
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Posted : Jan 28, 2009 21:34
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On 2009-01-28 18:55, Conny wrote:
well often i end up with this problem when arranging songs , i have an instrument lets say organ at one point in the song where it plays bass notes and the volume sounds ok.
But when the same instrument plays higher notes in an other part of the song the notes often sound "to loud" even if the instruments has the same volume as when the bassnotes where played.
How should i solve this ? , should the volume be lower when the instrument plays higher notes ?
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you should reduce the velocity of the higher notes... its a simple way of resolving this |
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Trip-
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Posted : Jan 29, 2009 14:25
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Conny,
you said "percieved" by the ear, but what about the actual digital level peak? is it the same on both notes?
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gutter
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Posted : Jan 29, 2009 14:30
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so why dont use some velocity on keys or patch and play higher notes with less velocity on ?? this could make them softer while playing on the midi or fix the velocities in the midi editor afterward
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gutter
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Posted : Jan 29, 2009 16:02
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shit , didnt saw onionbrains post , sorry
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