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Is there any Hardware Enthusiasts here?
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satorirazor
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Posted : Apr 21, 2005 00:23
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On 2005-04-20 05:08, luizmenezesjr wrote:
Just my last words...
Some people are trying to make me belive that my 1500 US$ synth is equal or worst than their VSTs...
I believe MOST of you (not all) use non authorized copies (read pirate/warez) of your Cubase, VSTs, etc...
So why argue with someone that doesn't pay the software company that spend their time programming these beautiful vsts?
If you have all registered software sequencers and vsts synts, than you can start to talk...
Buying a hardware may be more expensive, but one good synth (jp80x0, nordlead2/3, virus) make what a good pc machine, few vsts and effects can do, but with more power and sound quality. The final price is about the same (how much costs a high-end pc to run 10 vanguards, and effects, etc?)
Anyway... for those who think: "I never gonna need a hardware synth", lets see in the future, when you have an Recorder like Hommega, and when you are producing professionally and playing alive for 5.000 people (think if your windows halt, what you gonna do?)
Anyway, for me this conversation is close, since there's some guys that can discuss an topic without offend others...
Sorry about my English, I hope all of you can understand what I'm trying to say.
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I think i really have to agree whit this guy!! 
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satorirazor
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Posted : Apr 21, 2005 00:42
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There isnt any worse or better soft or harware
They are just as good and same!
But it cant be denied that "moast" hardware have a better sound quality!
Not just because of the AD/DA but the internal processing of the software!
Or?.....
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br0d
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Posted : Apr 21, 2005 07:25
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On 2005-04-20 20:43, orik wrote:
does anyone here feal like they nead a joint...
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4/20
threads like this make me wish i still smoked 
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fregle
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Posted : Apr 21, 2005 16:25
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astralasia, when did that hair get up ur ass and how long are u planning to keep it there?
exactly right br0d...
btw, i looked at br0d's setup, and it almost is a hardware setup (with all that dsp-power, a good flexible hardware polysynth,...). So in the future this discussion will be futile, everything is gonna be mixed so much nobody will know anymore (example, the new korg oasis is actually a pc running linux...)
slyman is right too... Those waves plugins are more expensive then most hardware that does the same... So it's bound to sound better, no? And especially effects that have always been better digitaly (like reverbs) pc's have the potential do a much better job than a TC4000, simply because it has more processing power...
this discussion is just getting really out of date and tiring... i'm not even sure i should have posted anything to warrant it's existence... |
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14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Apr 21, 2005 18:05
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On 2005-04-21 16:25, FREGLE wrote:
this discussion is just getting really out of date and tiring... i'm not even sure i should have posted anything to warrant it's existence...
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Only "proper" analog vs digital threads end up like this in the end...It only means it was a good one...lol!
Me>You |
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Apr 21, 2005 18:46
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sy000321
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Posted : Apr 21, 2005 19:23
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On 2005-04-21 16:25, FREGLE wrote:
astralasia, when did that hair get up ur ass and how long are u planning to keep it there?
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ololololol
couldn't resist 
roll a joint or STFU :) |
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Pavel
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Posted : Apr 21, 2005 22:05
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Now Playing the first Cosma album. And it's sounds extremely well done music. And guess what? Made entirely with software. Sounds fat enough for me, and the music itself is preeeetty good as well.
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satorirazor
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Posted : Apr 23, 2005 18:05
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On 2005-04-21 22:05, Pavel wrote:
Now Playing the first Cosma album. And it's sounds extremely well done music. And guess what? Made entirely with software. Sounds fat enough for me, and the music itself is preeeetty good as well.
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Yeep its actually made whit a soundblaster card!which means WOW!!
But u can hear the soundquality diffrence!
But that doesnt matter, its about the music!!!
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AvS
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Posted : Apr 24, 2005 16:37
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Fat this and fat that...
Why does everyone measure thing in "fatness"??!!
Fat is not the same as good. Everything can be fat. Man I hate that term!
Blahh |
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Pavel
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Posted : Apr 24, 2005 16:40
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I wish i could lose some of my fat.
I need a diet.
What VST should i use?
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index
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Posted : Apr 24, 2005 16:53
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On 2005-04-24 16:40, Pavel wrote:
I wish i could lose some of my fat.
I need a diet.
What VST should i use?
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Rename the topic man ahahahhahahaha |
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sonik_akb
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Posted : Apr 25, 2005 17:59
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Well, I only use hardware synths or multi-samples from hardware synths into EXS24 sampler. I like to tweak knobs on synths, ít's a relaxing thing to do... though, there are a lot of amazing soft synths (FM7, Pro-53, Absynth, V-Station etc.)
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satorirazor
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Posted : Apr 27, 2005 12:05
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On 2005-04-24 16:37, AvS wrote:
Fat this and fat that...
Why does everyone measure thing in "fatness"??!!
Fat is not the same as good. Everything can be fat. Man I hate that term!
Blahh
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Thank you!! Couldnt agree more!!
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Lord Deo
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Posted : Apr 28, 2005 00:21
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I am hardware, all the way, just cuz doing live show on real thing vs on laptop ain't the same thing.
with hardware you can always improvise, build something new each time you perform: cut filters differently, apply different amount of aftertouch, play on different octave etc. etc. thus posibilities to improvise on hardware are endless as long as your imagination goes with it.
with hardware there's more human expression in the music that makes it live as a sound and as a performance in every aspect, while on the laptops it's all preprogramed - sequenced, repetitive.
Besides, hardware synths, samplers they are musical instruments while laptops are just portalble computing machines a super smart calculators if you will.
Many of you might argue with me about benefits of using computers, but still, i think music should be done on musical instrument and not on some INTEL PENTIUM CHARGED MICROWAVE.
that's my honest opinion as a musician and artist and it's not meant to cause any arguments.
cheers. |
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