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Is there any Hardware Enthusiasts here?

14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Apr 19, 2005 11:19
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On 2005-04-18 19:59, UnderTow wrote:
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On 2005-04-18 15:26, 14-year old e-tard wrote:

Some people might get their kicks from masturbating with the mouse,



You are at it again. You are doing exactly the same thing as you were doing when talking about the Virus. You might not literaly be saying that you think that your opinion is the measure for all things but that is certainly the impression you are giving. It shines through your posts like a supernova. (Not the synth obviously).

Can you please have some respect for people and agree to disagree instead of posting your barely witheld arrogance?

Thanks,

UnderTow


Undertow if you are going to vent what ever appears to be going wrong with your life at the moment, on my posts, please try to use some decent arguments.
What the hell is wrong with masturbation anyway? You've done it, I've done it, the whole world does it... it's not even prohibited by Isratrance's guidelines for fucks sake!
Chill out, put on a Sub6 record, or go play with your Virus or something.
          Me>You
UnderTow


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Posted : Apr 19, 2005 20:58

Are you going to pretend that you were not using the term in a derogatory manner? Whatever ...

UnderTow
Pavel
Troll

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Posted : Apr 19, 2005 21:42
And back to the topic....           Everyone in the world is doing something without me
zafer
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Posted : Apr 19, 2005 23:00
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On 2005-04-18 15:26, 14-year old e-tard wrote:

Some people might get their kicks from masturbating with the mouse,


it's about money...i guess anyone would prefer a studio looking like star ship cockpit instead of a mouse, also because of better accessibility thats maybe one of the concrete advantages, on the other hand with a pc you can program knobs going up and down on their own and be sure it will sound always the same, with hardware you can't, or do you?
Astralasia


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Posted : Apr 20, 2005 00:06
All this argue about soft or hardware!

Let me tell u a story....
Like i said before i work in a instrument musicshop in sweden, and last year i went for some hightech news education, where Novation
Showed their just released v-station
and they compared the k-station whit the a-station (a/b) and i can tell u for shure that the diffrence was quite big. (i dont recall which card they used).
But the hardware sounded more clear and fatter!

But its up to each other to decide!
i can only say what i expirenced!

Take care!
Astralasia


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Posted : Apr 20, 2005 00:11
Hmmmm..... Im intrested to know what u folks
think of the Waldorf Synths??

I like them!!?
luizmenezesjr


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Posted : Apr 20, 2005 05:08
Just my last words...

Some people are trying to make me belive that my 1500 US$ synth is equal or worst than their VSTs...

I believe MOST of you (not all) use non authorized copies (read pirate/warez) of your Cubase, VSTs, etc...

So why argue with someone that doesn't pay the software company that spend their time programming these beautiful vsts?

If you have all registered software sequencers and vsts synts, than you can start to talk...

Buying a hardware may be more expensive, but one good synth (jp80x0, nordlead2/3, virus) make what a good pc machine, few vsts and effects can do, but with more power and sound quality. The final price is about the same (how much costs a high-end pc to run 10 vanguards, and effects, etc?)

Anyway... for those who think: "I never gonna need a hardware synth", lets see in the future, when you have an Recorder like Hommega, and when you are producing professionally and playing alive for 5.000 people (think if your windows halt, what you gonna do?)

Anyway, for me this conversation is close, since there's some guys that can discuss an topic without offend others...

Sorry about my English, I hope all of you can understand what I'm trying to say.
          Abraços/Regards,

Luiz Menezes Jr.
Campinas/SP - Brazil
Eletronz Project
http://www.eletronz.com
br0d
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Posted : Apr 20, 2005 10:12
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On 2005-04-19 23:00, zafer wrote:
it's about money...i guess anyone would prefer a studio looking like star ship cockpit instead of a mouse, also because of better accessibility thats maybe one of the concrete advantages, on the other hand with a pc you can program knobs going up and down on their own and be sure it will sound always the same, with hardware you can't, or do you?



I HAD a starship, and I sold it, because it was pointless, klunky, and redundant. I work with two things: my masturbation mouse and a controller keyboard (a virus KB.)

I use dual Xeon processors, powercore/poco virus, UAD, VSTi, fx. That is all I need.

I can respect that some people get inspiration from proprietary hardware interfaces, but I am not that tactile.

Automation, offline SX processing (LIMITLESS), sample accuracy, export audio instead of MIDI record, lack of cables, power savings, even EASIER TO VACUUM

These are the things I care about, not some sheet metal interface design with knobs some dood came up with.

Interface is just interface. It is ultimately a hindrance, impedance to the flow of ideas from the mind to the medium. The extent to which you can remove its influence is the extent to which you are recording your purest ideas. Which is why people got into music?

Which is why I recommended microphone improvisation in the other thread. Almost no interface. Do you want to record the ideas in your mind, or the ones which happen as a result of battling the gear?
14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Apr 20, 2005 11:11
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On 2005-04-19 20:58, UnderTow wrote:

Are you going to pretend that you were not using the term in a derogatory manner? Whatever ...

UnderTow


Wow, you can read people's minds too? Is this you by any chance?
http://www.marvelvc.com.br/X-Men/Xavier2.jpg


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On 2005-04-20 10:12, br0d wrote:
...Interface is just interface. It is ultimately a hindrance, impedance to the flow of ideas from the mind to the medium. The extent to which you can remove its influence is the extent to which you are recording your purest ideas. Which is why people got into music?


Horses for courses innit? Interfaces can also be a lot of fun and ispire the artist in doing certain things he wouldn't have done otherwise...I mean speaking for my self, even if I had a mind to midi interface, I'd be pretty bored sitting in my chair without doing anything, besides thinking about the sounds that I wanted to record.
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On 2005-04-20 10:12, br0d wrote:
Do you want to record the ideas in your mind, or the ones which happen as a result of battling the gear?


Sometimes, some people that are still learning to tweak the different parameters of their synths and whilst "battling" their synths, as you say, they come up with something great by luck, or mistake or whatever...historicaly people have invented many great things by mistake.

Anyway, work flow and sources of inspiration are very personal and subjective things, there is no universal right way of doing things.
          Me>You
EYB
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Posted : Apr 20, 2005 11:20
Undertow this is u?

U look like the guy from startrek


edit:

Captian Piquard - or something like that           Signature
14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Apr 20, 2005 11:24
[geek]Nah mate, that's Xavier the mind reader from X-Men. You might remember his voice on Tranan's Cluedo.[/geek]
...Or is it Undertow?!?!?
lol!

          Me>You
slyman604
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Posted : Apr 20, 2005 15:16
"So why argue with someone that doesn't pay the software company that spend their time programming these beautiful vsts?"

yea exactly, thats why these arguements are so pointless.
Everyone uses the waves plugins even though the waves bundles cost more than almost any hardware synth.
if everyone was robbing zzounds.com for hardware synths im sure this arguement would be different.

UnderTow


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Posted : Apr 20, 2005 18:40

Oh you found a picture of me online. Cool. Btw, when they featured me in that film, they played down my powers because they didn't think people would believe it otherwise.

UnderTow
orik
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Posted : Apr 20, 2005 20:43
does anyone here feal like they nead a joint...
Pavel
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Posted : Apr 20, 2005 20:54
Roll me a giant.           Everyone in the world is doing something without me
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