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Is there a program that will tell you what key a song is in?
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[Tech Support]
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Posted : May 30, 2007 02:59
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Because life as a DJ would be a lot easier if there was one. |
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Posted : May 30, 2007 03:02
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Posted : May 30, 2007 03:05
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right on, thanx for the tip. are there they kind of tricky to use? I know that some songs, when i play them at zero on the pitch control, aren't in the key they're supposed to be in when they were mastered. |
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Posted : May 30, 2007 05:14
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I don't understand what you meant.
If you play a track on zero in the pitch control it means the track is on its native key or tone. If you accelerate or slow it down there's a corresponding change in the tone, unless you use the master tempo on the CDJ. So when mixing in keys it may (I said may) be interesting to use the master tempo, but I rarely use it, because it makes the mixing more unstable and sometimes cause ever worse problems, like sounding like a double kick. So I try the mixes at home if I have time, then if I feel its reliable I use the master tempo.
The best option is try to play tracks on it's own speed, as a thumb rule I never accelerate or slow a track more than 2%, and usually stay under 1%.
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Posted : May 30, 2007 06:41
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Some songs don't get mastered right, though so they're not in *exactly* the right key when you set the gain to zero. Usually if i have to speed a record up any less than 2% i use the master tempo switch just so you don't wind up w/a song thats just a bit in between keys. On a side note, the new DJM-800 supposedly fixed this problem and does a little bit of the pitch shifting for you. |
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illusions
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Posted : May 30, 2007 09:07
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Mastering does not have anything to do with change in key/pitch of the track. The artist may not have tuned it properly if you do find out of tune tracks. |
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Posted : May 30, 2007 16:06
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Posted : May 30, 2007 16:27
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I sometimes nudge tracks up in pitch a bit after I've finished with them, because I think they sound better just a touch faster.
This is entirely deliberate and nothing to do with the 'mastering' process per se.
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Posted : May 31, 2007 11:05
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Speaka - won't that cause some problems for the dj's that try to mix it in ?
I've heard lots of people complain about tracks being really "hard" to mix, probably because they do something similiar I guess. |
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Posted : May 31, 2007 12:25
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i don't understand this mix in keys thing. if you mix A that is playing with B that is cued, if you mix it in a quiet part of track B (like only kick and bass and maybe percursion) you won't feel the key change till you switch the bass. and this is, many times, a desired effect.
speaka since most of us are wannabe djs and we all use the 0.7 rule, that will make your tracks really hard to mix if they arent a full number (sorry my english) like 145 or 146. if you make yours 145.2 or 146.7 the 0.7 rule is worthless and it will be like mixing vinyl, having to sync the bpm by hear and not by calcs. Pyrex :: Traveling without moving
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Jun 22, 2008 15:14
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On 2007-05-30 06:41, [Tech Support] wrote:
Some songs don't get mastered right, though so they're not in *exactly* the right key when you set the gain to zero.
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Did you mean "set the pitch to zero"? Gain has nothing to do with speed. Also the only way modern mastering techniques (ie. not using tape) can change the speed (and therefore pitch) of a track is by converting the samplerate incorrectly, and you've really got to have dropped the ball badly not to notice it.
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Posted : Jun 22, 2008 15:18
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about mixed in key i read this on the net:
It's a tool that analyses music files (be they mp3, wav etc... not solely mp3) and corrects what it perceives to be as errors.
It involves analysing the overall volume and adjusting accordingly to get a uniform decibel level for all tracks whilst maintaining some dynamics, it analyses the pitch/key of a track and tunes it to its nearest key to help with harmonic mixing, it also analyses for clipped sections of audio and adjusts them so they aren't distorting.
for good mastered music its basically pointless, but for unmastered music and music that never had a good engineer on it, it really helps i've used it for a group of songs to test it out, and i was impressed, another good feature is its not destructive, it saves the file as another file so if you don't like it the original is untouched, i wouldn't use it for production purpose, but for dj'ing yea.
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