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Is the psy scene bigger then what it was before in USA ?
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krikett
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Posted : Apr 24, 2010 20:52
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I guess you could say I started in the goth/industrial scene and I love psytrance! (especially the 'darker/edgier' stuff) 
Koji and Karma would play it at some industrial events in Charlotte (Purgatory, Synthesis, etc) and in my wee ages I always wondered "what the heck IS that music, it's AWESOME and it's not Funker Voght or Combichrist, etc"
Then I found out and uh... here I am today.
Then I posted a few songs on online profiles, hosted some sweet house parties where psy was the music booming on the speakers, and then people that were younger in my highschool also started listening and, eventually getting into it too.
So, I think it's growing All good stuffs do ^-^ |
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lady seals
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Posted : Apr 24, 2010 23:01
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On 2010-04-22 15:25, braininavat wrote:
Its probably a regional thing...In the northeast here it seems dubstep is in command as far as electronic music goes.
The hippy types I know pretty much hate electronic music. They are into bonnaroo type bands.
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Definitely here too (southeast) in the cases of many of my friends. I plan to pop some psy cherries this summer sometime though. There are a few whom I think will love it once they get a taste.
I fail to understand why some people (many of my hippy buddies) can't cross lines in musical genres. They don't like EDM in general, like you said. Is it that they truly don't like it or that they refuse to cross their line? If I like music, I like it. It's not that hard.
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FattyAcid
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Posted : Apr 25, 2010 09:52
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i have buddies that, other than their musical taste, are some of the most fun people to party with...very similar ideals....community, respect for the dancefloor, love of "psychedelic" art....but they listen to the same 5 bands almost all of the time, and dismiss electronica as "all the same", "druggie", "uncreative".....yet they listen to a rotation of the same songs played hundreds of times, being played by drug users for drug users, and do the SAME thing every summer, with the EXACT same songs being played by the exact same people....it pisses me off to no end when they write off or try and criticize electronica, and because i like to hang with friends, i always end up accompanying them, while they never come check out any events i'm going to
americans are pros at being sold bullshit, and in being tricked into buying that bullshit over and over, as long as the packaging is different
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djSF
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Posted : Apr 25, 2010 17:57
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I think the reason there is less activity in the psytrance community is that there is really not a lot going on these days in the US. So at least for me, I'm saving up to go to larger international events to connect more with folks globally instead. I do think this is an awesome opportunity to mobilize and reach out to other scenes and build a bigger base for when we have more to offer. |
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nancy!
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Posted : Apr 25, 2010 20:40
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Bottom line: the U.S. psyscene ebbs and flows but psy
will never die!
Psy  !
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That's no sky in the pie!
It's psy in my eye!
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emilybobemily
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Posted : Apr 26, 2010 02:53
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On 2010-04-25 17:57, djSF wrote:
I think the reason there is less activity in the psytrance community is that there is really not a lot going on these days in the US. So at least for me, I'm saving up to go to larger international events to connect more with folks globally instead. I do think this is an awesome opportunity to mobilize and reach out to other scenes and build a bigger base for when we have more to offer.
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just so long as *everyone* doesn't do that. lol
then we will have no scene at all because no one will be going to our smaller festivals. |
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djSF
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Posted : Apr 26, 2010 06:59
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On 2010-04-26 02:53, emilybobemily wrote:
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On 2010-04-25 17:57, djSF wrote:
I think the reason there is less activity in the psytrance community is that there is really not a lot going on these days in the US. So at least for me, I'm saving up to go to larger international events to connect more with folks globally instead. I do think this is an awesome opportunity to mobilize and reach out to other scenes and build a bigger base for when we have more to offer.
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just so long as *everyone* doesn't do that. lol
then we will have no scene at all because no one will be going to our smaller festivals.
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No - I don't think we're all gonna give up I'm still getting out every so often for smaller events - and the Dreamcatcher crew in kickin' it up a notch these days as well
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hardkornate
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Posted : Apr 26, 2010 07:25
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On 2010-04-24 15:58, krisamadhi wrote:
1999 asheville would get 400-500 people. Now we get about 100 for indoor, but the out side festivals here have grow some.
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I wouldn't consider any of the indoor events(besides NYE, that was awesome) I have gone to in Asheville to be actual parties. More like half assed, zero budget, locals only, just cuz we can events. If you include those in the count, you may as well keep track of how many people show up at house parties. AFAICT Asheville will have 3 real shows this year. Equinox, NYE, and World Bridge. Although, maybe someone new to the area will get bored and pitch in...
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Axis Mundi
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Posted : Apr 26, 2010 23:03
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On 2010-04-24 15:58, krisamadhi wrote:
1999 asheville would get 400-500 people. Now we get about 100 for indoor, but the out side festivals here have grow some.
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I wouldn't consider any of the indoor events(besides NYE, that was awesome) I have gone to in Asheville to be actual parties. More like half assed, zero budget, locals only, just cuz we can events. If you include those in the count, you may as well keep track of how many people show up at house parties. AFAICT Asheville will have 3 real shows this year. Equinox, NYE, and World Bridge. Although, maybe someone new to the area will get bored and pitch in...
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I disagree. First of all, a town and region the size of Asheville and WNC (in terms of population) will NEVER support a scene bigger than the region itself. That being said, I'm not sure what your definition of a "real show" is except what you make of it.
"half-assed" the facts are, there are quite a few people who put their lives into this and have been doing so for quite some time. People hand make their own deco, do complete grassroots promotion, perform for free and/or at a personal loss, and a lot more just to make what happens, happen. For the size it is, they do a real fine job of it, especially when you think that this is all coming out of someone's personal pocket and not an investor's bank account or from the profits of last year's event.
"zero budget" see above.
"locals only" some of the asheville/southeast "locals" have been making huge international reputations for a lot longer than you've been in the area. I can name at least 10 djs and artists off the top of my head right now that have performed coast to coast and abroad and pushed the music and the scene in other ways besides.
On top of that, Asheville has a LOT of chiefs for its indian count, and a lot of them have been putting in their time and waiting in line, so to say, for years. Ask anyone on a lineup around here how long they had to wait after moving to Asheville before they got a chance to play and you'll see what I mean.
"locals only, just cuz we can events" The locals usually end up taking the biggest loss whenever an event happens. Nobody else volunteers to step up and front out the capital, so honestly I can't hold it against them for booking themselves and each other (especially considering how many of them rock face).
"If you include those in the count, you may as well keep track of how many people show up at house parties." The different music scenes in Asheville have made huge strides recently to increase cooperation, togetherness, etc. at events. The crew that used to throw strictly house music now incorporates many other styles, and recently even through an all-psytrance party, booking non-Asheville psytrance acts, which many said was one of the best in a while, as an example... The result has been that parties have flourished, once-separate cliques are starting to come together, and more... in short, it's been very positive for the area.
"Although, maybe someone new to the area will get bored and pitch in..." Don't take this the wrong way, but why don't you let that someone be you? Nobody stops paying their dues. I really don't mean any offense here, but I gotta call it... you seem to think you have Asheville pegged from reading your post but really, you haven't been in the area very long at all and I haven't seen or heard about much effort from you to help out with parties beyond showing up as a guest and/or expressing your interest to get up there and play around here.
And that's all fine and good, and I completely sympathize... it's frustrating to be new to this area and have to go through the waiting/integration process. I had to put my time in, so have many before me and I've seen it happening to others since my coming here. It sucks. It sucks. But don't come on here and dis the scene around here because while yes in the grand scheme of things, it's small potatoes, but it's very special and sacred to the people involved (for more than simply the reasons I mentioned above) so please show some respect to that at least, especially if you are in a position where you are actively seeking bookings.
I saying this as a friend and mean no harm or disrespect.
P.S. Unfortunately, World Bridge will actually be in Georgia this year, not Asheville. Such are the sacrifices we need to make to keep things alive and rocking.
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robomarket
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Posted : Apr 27, 2010 07:15
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On 2010-04-25 20:40, nancy! wrote:
Bottom line: the U.S. psyscene ebbs and flows but psy
will never die!
Psy !
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2nd!
parties in nyc some 3-4-5 years ago had an awesome vibe to them. i don't know about the rest of the us
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Maine Coon
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Posted : Apr 27, 2010 15:52
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Axis Mundi, excellent post, thank you.
Some people pretend life outside NYC and LA does not exist, and anything smaller than the Empire State building is not worth looking at.
One understands the importance of the local when he grows older, when he buys a house, when he has a family of his own. Then it dawns on you that who is your mayor may sometimes be more important than who is your President. But it takes years for most people to arrive to that point, if ever.
Good luck to you and your comrades.
If I may ask, Ashville what? NC?
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emilybobemily
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Posted : Apr 27, 2010 16:58
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yep. NC.
and I would never complain about psy parties in Asheville, NC until you see psy parties anywhere else in the state. Because they usually have about 30 people or less waiting for the venue to shut down early because they can't make money off of us. OR one psy artist in a back room playing at a terrible time slot because no one else at the party likes the music.
Asheville is about all we have in NC and I drive 4 hours for those small parties and always have an excellent time! |
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SineFreq
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Posted : Apr 27, 2010 17:03
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I NEED MORE PSY EVENTS!!!!
Sorry everyone but I live in Cali and it kills me that there are very few psy dominant festies, although the ones there are I am forever greatful for. I love all music, but you all know how special this art form is.
Dubstep was great when it first came out, it was like psy to me. The first time I heard it was at Symbiosis 07' in California (I had been listening to psy for about 2 yrs. Shpongle sucked me into the Psytrance genre and alien Project, Astrix, and Cosmosis... helped along  ) and it was incredible. But it has changed , now its just to me at least clubby and trendy.It reminds me too much of Rap (not hip-hop), it seems its becoming adrenaline centered but not in a balanced manner. Its rather sad to me really. Shpongle was why I was at Symbiosis and the drugs of course
But anyways I will always keep an open mind. And the Dubstep I like I love. I will always listen and too and produce Psy. I have been waiting and waiting for almost 5 yrs. trying to perfect this art form and create new sounds(Before that I've been producing music for as long as I can remember lol), expect some works from me soon.
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krikett
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Posted : Apr 27, 2010 18:29
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true that, maine coon
you can have the biggest city in the world or the prettiest town, but if the mayor/law enforcement/etc won't let you do things, then for the most part - it's not gonna happen (not frequently enough to get anything actually GOING anyways). kudos to those towns/areas that have evolved past the cro-magnon stage. |
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David(KIVA)
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Posted : Apr 28, 2010 03:55
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On 2010-04-22 09:06, cinderVOMIT wrote:
I can't speak for our nation as a whole, but for the southeast area i think it has totally exploded over the last few years..our frequencies are reaching all points of the usa
bang on USAliens!!
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I agree with this...all the middle, north and south scenes have been striving for years now it seems. Good Work!!! Keep it up.
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