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Is Sidechaining a must?
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kabbalisticvillage
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Posted : Apr 3, 2011 19:48:49
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i know we go here by the way of do what sounds good..but there are basic production techniques that i think everyone follows.I just figured out what sidechaining is and how to use it.
2 questions?
Does everyone do it in psytrance?
2.In slower bpm's the sidechaning effect works a little better than in higher bpm's?Any thoughts?
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A.Rosengren
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Posted : Apr 3, 2011 19:55
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I find sidechaining to be imperative to maintaining a nice production. Without it things would be very messy 
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psyraal
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Posted : Apr 3, 2011 20:10
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On 2011-04-03 19:55, A.Rosengren wrote:
I find sidechaining to be imperative to maintaining a nice production. Without it things would be very messy
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i know sidechain is like glueing two channels into one mixer channel and use it to make the sound tighter, (if this is wrong please correct me)
but i can't seem to get in my head a way to use it and why i should
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Nectarios
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Posted : Apr 3, 2011 21:09
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On 2011-04-03 19:55, A.Rosengren wrote:
I find sidechaining to be imperative to maintaining a nice production. Without it things would be very messy
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+1. I also love the actual sound when done right, but always in moderation.
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On 2011-04-03 20:10, NychroLogic wrote:
i know sidechain is like glueing two channels into one mixer channel and use it to make the sound tighter, (if this is wrong please correct me)
but i can't seem to get in my head a way to use it and why i should
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That is buss compression (provided you have a compressor inserted into that channel).
Sidechaining is when you set a compressor to "listen" to an incoming trigger (kick) and at every trigger, drop the gain of the channel according to the parameters set in the sidechain compressor.
Peace out.
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Greententacle
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Posted : Apr 3, 2011 21:17
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psyraal
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Posted : Apr 3, 2011 21:21
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On 2011-04-03 21:09, disco hooligans wrote:
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On 2011-04-03 19:55, A.Rosengren wrote:
I find sidechaining to be imperative to maintaining a nice production. Without it things would be very messy
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+1. I also love the actual sound when done right, but always in moderation.
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On 2011-04-03 20:10, NychroLogic wrote:
i know sidechain is like glueing two channels into one mixer channel and use it to make the sound tighter, (if this is wrong please correct me)
but i can't seem to get in my head a way to use it and why i should
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That is buss compression (provided you have a compressor inserted into that channel).
Sidechaining is when you set a compressor to "listen" to an incoming trigger (kick) and at every trigger, drop the gain of the channel according to the parameters set in the sidechain compressor.
Peace out.
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damn, complicated
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orange
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Posted : Apr 3, 2011 21:59
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PoM
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Posted : Apr 3, 2011 22:42
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sidechaining +1 everyhting that have a sidechain input can be usefull ,creatively and/ or to make a mix cleaner . |
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Medea
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Posted : Apr 4, 2011 00:36
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On 2011-04-03 21:59, orange wrote:
for me its not a must.. its just a tool/function.
an eq is a must!
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+1
I would even add: hi-pass EQ is a must!
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panike
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Posted : Apr 4, 2011 00:43
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On 2011-04-04 00:36, Medea wrote:
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On 2011-04-03 21:59, orange wrote:
for me its not a must.. its just a tool/function.
an eq is a must!
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+1
I would even add: hi-pass EQ is a must!
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that hi-pass its for cuting the lows? |
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Medea
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Posted : Apr 4, 2011 00:49
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monno
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Posted : Apr 4, 2011 01:29
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Insomniscene
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Posted : Apr 4, 2011 01:43
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Regarding the first question "does everyone do it in psytrance?"
I don't really know whether every psy producer does or not...but I find that it gives the bass an extra element of bounce...so it is definitely giving the bass a bit more "gallop"...
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A.Rosengren
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Posted : Apr 4, 2011 01:44
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I guess it also depends on what type of music you are doing, if you are making 170bpm KBBBKBBB I guess you can go without it. It will sound like shit anyway. Oh no he did it again.
However if you are serious about music production I believe it is very important to master all aspects of fitting elements to work nicely together, one of which methods is sidechaining.
Bus compressor is optional, I rarely use it unless I have several channels with similar sounds that needs a common denominator which will often include a sidechain compresser aswell to tight things up.
cheers,
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Padmapani
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Posted : Apr 4, 2011 02:38
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it's not a must, but it really depends on your bass and kick pattern plus the length of your kick/bass notes. if bass and kick would overlap at some point sidechaining is recommended.
i use it rarely, but then again i'm no fan of kbbb. |
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