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Is it worth it, Apple.
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Aiyro
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Posted : Jun 28, 2007 16:33
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Im getting so damn tired of my old pc. Ive been looking to get something new... Im tired of windows and am looking at getting THE Mac. My question is this:
Would i be wasting loaned money if i were to buy the fastest macpro out there... the dual quad core. (octo-core).
Do any of u out there have experiences with the quad core or faster mac pro? Is it fast (how fast)?. Im using cubase, and from what ive heard, the quad core kicks. Is preparing myself for the future with this octo core just a "waste" of money. what are ur opinions?
I will still be using cubase after the change.
Do u guys think i should give steinberg a shout to hear what they have to say about compatibility with the octocore? Should i contact apple? If i do contact the above, both parts will be looking to sell me a product?
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bilbobagginz
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Posted : Jun 28, 2007 18:56
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hi.
Please take into account, I had never used a Mac Pro.
But, I am a techie geek, and I work with serious machines, so I have some insights on what you can expect.
Let's start a discussion, before we go further, in a dialog form, a ping-pong conversation.
Your main task as I see now is to define the problem you want to solve by purchasing a MP machine.
So, let's start with: are you working on it production, with money or "just for fun" ?
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Posted : Jun 28, 2007 19:08
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i think its really worth it ...
if u can afford ur programs and installers u need
cause u cant run cracked SX,Nuendo,Logic etc ...
but wont crash like bitchy windows ... no worries of worms,trojans,dlls etc .. im sure u know all this
but u can always boot windows and do the rest 
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Brain Hacked
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Posted : Jun 28, 2007 20:09
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I think u should switch, im tired of windows too, u have to take the risk, getting mac may force u to save money and buy logic pro of cubase 4, there are more apps like DP wich u can get easily.
Im saving money too, im tired of tuning windows,cleaning it,disabling services, crashes,bugs,blah,blah,blah, i want to focus on music and creativity not of tunning an operating system every week or so...
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bilbobagginz
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Posted : Jun 28, 2007 20:50
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It is fun to work with mac, it's true, but... still I think he doesn't have to get the quad-core machine. maybe he'll be ok with a dual CPU Xeon. and spend the rest of the money on some additional hardware, like dsp cards, or a synth, or maybe some cool licensed softwares.
cheerz. |
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Janue
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Posted : Jun 28, 2007 21:04
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On 2007-06-28 20:09, Brain Hacked wrote:
I think u should switch, im tired of windows too, u have to take the risk, getting mac may force u to save money and buy logic pro of cubase 4, there are more apps like DP wich u can get easily.
Im saving money too, im tired of tuning windows,cleaning it,disabling services, crashes,bugs,blah,blah,blah, i want to focus on music and creativity not of tunning an operating system every week or so...
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Same here man  good damn bugs
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cytopia
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Posted : Jun 28, 2007 21:58
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I have been discussing the pc vs mac thing for some weeks now and I like pc because I know how they work, but I hear from people I know and trust, that mac OS runs more stable, doesnt need constant updates, and has some neat features that Windows doesn't. Lets face it, windows is buggy.
For me the answer may be a Mac, with dual boot Osx and XP, so that I have the best of both worlds. Having said that I am sure a dual core PC with 2 GB ram and nicely chosen hardware, and correctly installed system will work very well also.
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Alex - Aural Invasion
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Posted : Jun 28, 2007 23:09
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i have pc for internet, and one for the studio.
My theory is, that internet fucks your pc up! Studio PC rocks 
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bilbobagginz
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Posted : Jun 29, 2007 00:25
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| mac OS runs more stable, doesnt need constant updates, and has some neat features that Windows doesn't. Lets face it, windows is buggy.
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it "feels" more stable, and it DOES have constant updates.
every computer program larger than 1 line of programming code can contain errors.
I have seen a mac crash. it's not that they simply NEVER crash.
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a mac pro can have 2 quad-cores, which makes it 8 CPUs.
and it has enough space for 16GB of memory, which is 2 GB per CPU.
This is why I am trying to discover what the man needs, because maybe a mac pro is an overkill for him 
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cytopia
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Posted : Jun 29, 2007 01:02
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overkill indeed, I went to the apple site and selected the Mac Pro with all the options, really all of them, QUAD, two cinema displays, 16 GB RAM etc etc... almost 7,000 EUR. Not as much as I thought it would cost.
I think myself I am going for a 15" Macbook pro, 2GB. 7200 rpm HD, dual boot Osx / XP. Then I can make music and manage Cytopia.org on the road. Hopefully the Mac will be worth the extra money it costs. With pc there are just too many to choose from, and possible conflicts are problems that I read about, like bad service, or a CPU fan that makes system glitch when starts up. Thing about Mac is its a proven hardware combination, and a decent OS, with decent service, and now with dual boot XP is also possible, so I figure... why not give it a try, been a pc man for so many years.... should be interesting...
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Tomos
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Posted : Jun 29, 2007 04:06
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I don't notice the OS when I'm working. I use XP, I boot it up, open Cubase and live in it. My google toolbar informs me I haven't restarted in 18 days and Cubase I restart every few hours when I take a break.
If that isn't your experience in stability, something is wrong, or you're using your computer general stuff as well as production.
I have a MacBook Pro and Logic Express, can't stand it. I get beachball of death frequently and I've only had the machine a few months with about 3 of my own installed programs on it. I'm in no way a Microsoft fan, but I can't really fault XP as the OS for me. I find the sensitivity and non intuitive nature of mouse control in Apple Logic (draging and dropping, weird snap and grab points on regions) infuriating, and I've been using it for 5 months now. I've not tried cubase on a mac.
Do you really want to switch and have to get all your software running again, or are you just stuck in a rut? Are you dropping cash on a new toy where it could be better spent elsewhere in the studio?
Are you really making projects that require 16GB of memory? More and more processors won't make a computer faster. The boot up time for the computer and the time it takes to open a program haven't changed much for me in the last few generations of chips, I can just run more VSTs.
Personally I couldn't change now, probably ever. I'm too locked into my setup and the thought of another learning curve just to get back everything how I like it is too daunting. Vista can f* right off too..
As for the original post, total overkill. Maybe in 5 years when some new software can take advantage of it, but a single Core2Duo will eat through a heavy project easily.
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jun 29, 2007 11:52
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do you know, I'm at the same point.
I have precisely zero intention of upgrading this PC. Im gonna keep it for the studio - I've just got it how Ilike it, so why would I go with Vista?
I'll fund it with Ebay parts and it'll keep going for years.
No doubt at some point it'll become fashionable to have that vintage softsynth sound.
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assaf
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Posted : Jun 29, 2007 18:29
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my friend told me some really good things about working with cubase on LINUX.
anyone got any experience? |
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Tomos
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Posted : Jun 29, 2007 18:43
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AFAIK Cubase isn't natively supported in Linux, you'd have to use a Windows emulator which will eat your resources. So, why bother.
There are a few open source production suites on Linux, but I haven't tried any. Well, I tried one which booted from the CD and it gave me a headache just looking at it, so I ejected the disc |
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spinalpuppet
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Posted : Jun 29, 2007 19:26
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i have both too.
i honestly don't think there is much of a difference, if your XP machine is crashing alot then you need to tweak some things.
while its tons of fun to get a mac when you have never used one before, but i mean if your going to go from cubase on a PC to cubase on a mac its really not going to change your music at all. |
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