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is it okay to use FX PLUG INS in the master channel ?
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Vermeee
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Posted : May 24, 2011 08:09:09
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i have some effects that i want to use in the whole project in some moments, such as beat repeat, bitreduction etc...
is it okay to let them in the master channel annd activate them thro automation ?
i know some peolpe say u should not have plugins in the master channel when producin and mixin beside analyzers and those stuffs... but what bout when its FXs for creativity process?
 
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klippel
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Posted : May 24, 2011 09:06
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i asked my mum and she said no!
(man, do what you like to hear to your master channel.. just keep an eye on the level if you use drastic fx)
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Vermeee
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Posted : May 24, 2011 09:12
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elastic_plastic
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Posted : May 24, 2011 09:29
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its all good as long as it sounds good  |
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ohshit
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Posted : May 24, 2011 10:15
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Many people use a limiter but my suggestion is to apply fx (creatives and mastering) on the rendered song. |
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supergroover
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Posted : May 24, 2011 10:52
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I agree with Ohshit.
If you would like to use fx on a whole track. Bounce the section and make it a separate track. That way you can easily draw automation, add eq/ filter if necesarry. Just make sure you do it in the end when you have all the levels set for the track. And you are finished except for this part.
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APriest
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Posted : May 24, 2011 11:56
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I'm a beginner.... i use a "pre-master" folder (and a "not-pre-master" folder) cantaining all the tracks (and folders). |
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makus
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Posted : May 24, 2011 16:00
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aciduss
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Posted : May 24, 2011 16:58
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Freeflow
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Posted : May 24, 2011 18:19
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whatever rocks your boat! 
But i am with Makus here
But you should always remember to bypass when you export, otherwise you will get the effects twice and it will not sound good.
Generally some have a limiter, and even a master EQ
Or EQ, Comp, limiter. But this will give you a faulty picture of the raw material indeed, and when you bypass things can infact clip or be way too low in volume. So you will mix according to this setup and then you must stick with it. If you dont want to remix, So best is to alternate.
the good thing about it is
You will hear excessive use of time-based FX such as, Reverb, delay, chorus, Flangers... So the Comp& limiter works as a magnifier.
Again i think you should by pass and correct the settings, then listen again. Also you will hear excessive resonance if there are.
Nothing wrong with it but, there are pros and cons.
Now i read what you asked and if these beatrepeat plugs wont affect the amplitude and are clean in that way i dont see a problem in automating them. If you have the power and its not a problem! Do it
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psyraal
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Posted : May 24, 2011 20:33
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On 2011-05-24 18:19, Freeflow wrote:
But you should always remember to bypass when you export, otherwise you will get the effects twice and it will not sound good.
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Excuse me sir. I didn't quite got that part, what do you mean by it will get the effects twice?
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demoniac
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Posted : May 24, 2011 22:00
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Freeflow
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Posted : May 24, 2011 23:11
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On 2011-05-24 20:33, Ethik Mantis wrote:
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On 2011-05-24 18:19, Freeflow wrote:
But you should always remember to bypass when you export, otherwise you will get the effects twice and it will not sound good.
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Excuse me sir. I didn't quite got that part, what do you mean by it will get the effects twice?
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If you have effects on the masterchannel/bus then export a sound with the effects on you will have the FX on that soundfile, then when you import it back and playback the same sound will go through the masterchannel again and be effected again, Will probably either sound way too loud if it was dynamic effects, or way to muddy if it was time-based FX.
Happend to me sometime i forget to bypass and got twice the volume, hehe
Also i would advice to completley turn off or bypass Effects on the master when you export or record. Then later if you want to premaster or master you just run it through that effect chain or even make the chain better...
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psyraal
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Posted : May 24, 2011 23:22
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On 2011-05-24 23:11, Freeflow wrote:
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On 2011-05-24 20:33, Ethik Mantis wrote:
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On 2011-05-24 18:19, Freeflow wrote:
But you should always remember to bypass when you export, otherwise you will get the effects twice and it will not sound good.
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Excuse me sir. I didn't quite got that part, what do you mean by it will get the effects twice?
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If you have effects on the masterchannel/bus then export a sound with the effects on you will have the FX on that soundfile, then when you import it back and playback the same sound will go through the masterchannel again and be effected again, Will probably either sound way too loud if it was dynamic effects, or way to muddy if it was time-based FX.
Happend to me sometime i forget to bypass and got twice the volume, hehe
Also i would advice to completley turn off or bypass Effects on the master when you export or record. Then later if you want to premaster or master you just run it through that effect chain or even make the chain better...
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Ohhhh yes i remember that matter now 
I always do that, i export the sound with the fx applied and then i disconnect the resulting sound from the channel it was linked to and i link it to another channel, with 'preventing eq' only. This way, that doubled effect is avoided, i didn't remember that when i asked Thanks bud.
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mudpeople
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Posted : May 25, 2011 10:05
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If it sounds good why not? Youre the artist 
I sometimes put LP filters, or some kind of glitchy effect, on the master channel, but I keep em off (bypassed) unless they're active.
Renoise when outputting stems bypasses the master so Ive been putting the same fx on all channels individually instead, lately.
I never put any limiter or anything on the master, I save limiting for after I get a good mixdown.
But the bottom line as far as Im concerned is if it sounds cool to you, the creator, go with it!
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