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is it normal for a Psy album to have a mix of dark and light songs?
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Obelizk
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Posted : Mar 5, 2009 00:40:59
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Does anyone else just make darker songs when they're feeling in a darker mood?
Or do you always try to make songs that will make people feel good?
I know there are dark psy artists, and all the other different categories.
I just made a song that sounds darker than anything I've ever made before, but it's place will be on my album when it's done.
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Wizack Twizack
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Posted : Mar 5, 2009 00:53
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segment 7
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Posted : Mar 5, 2009 01:15
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I'm a lot happier buying an album with lots of different styles on it, because if the artist is good then i'll like the tracks no matter what the style, and therefore have tracks by that artist for whatever mood i might be in. And yeahh I often make darker tracks when im in that mood. Well not necessarily in a dark mood but you get me im sure.
Ben
 Projection makes perception. The world is what you gave it, nothing more than that. It is a witness to your state of mind, the outside picture of an inward condition. As a man thinketh, so does he perceive- Anonymous
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psychowave
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Posted : Mar 5, 2009 01:26
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I dont have a release...but I don´t go with just one style...my tracks are so diferent... one from other...
I think this is normal... |
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mubali
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Posted : Mar 5, 2009 06:28
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If you make sure to tell a good story throughout the album, why not put as many styles in it as you can?
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Becktrank
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Posted : Mar 5, 2009 07:11
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Just do what you think is right, be yourself, those kind of rules dont exist, if exist just broke them
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Obelizk
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Posted : Mar 5, 2009 07:35
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telling a story through a trance album sounds like a very cool idea. I'd never really thought about that before. |
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gutter
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Posted : Mar 5, 2009 10:13
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flow and emotions or emotional flow isnt that music about? lately i everything i do is upon the current feelings i have and i think i make the exact opposite, if i feel sad i make a peaceful trippy sound to calm things, if i feel happy and awake i write a more hard sound to bring the happiness/energy out
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i think youve heard it lots, especially in Nothing lasts - But nothing is lost from shpongle, the hole album is one track, one flow from the first till the last track, imo they sit and made all these tracks, just one in the beginning, and then chopped them to individual just for having 1,2,3 etc, give a listen youll see exactly what i mean and the story is passing through so many places, but were talking about simon here so...its a masterpiece anyway
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vegetal
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Posted : Mar 5, 2009 10:38
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x-rayz
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Posted : Mar 5, 2009 13:05
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subconsciousmind
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Posted : Mar 5, 2009 14:04
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I love albums with variety.
Its totally natural to make what you are in the mood to. Actually I find the opposite can't be really music.
But beware. PsyScene is totally narrow minded. The majority of freaks, artists and DJs are sworn into one genre, Dark, Prog, FullOn, whatever. As I monitor it, albums who break the borders are not especially well received and sold (except if its chillout).
My second Album is telling a very emotional story from beginning to end. Many people who understood it gave me that feedback to, and I put 3 years of work into actually getting the story right. It's totally based on emotions only, its a story for the heart, from the heart. No thinking. I never even thought about anything like "style". (its downloadable from my website its called "gfuehlsweid" http://www.subconsciousmind.ch/music/album-gfuehlsweid )
The distributors feedback talking with me on the phone:
Distributor: Its really nice music, but there is no connection between the tracks
Me: What do you mean?
Distributors: One track is more progressive, another a little dark, again another morning psy etc... you know.. it's better you have a story.. a thin red line between the songs.
Me: Hmm, yes...
Distributor: Well, we take it in our catalogue, maybe we will sell a few, but you really need to bring more story into your next album.
Me: Ahm, yes.. Sure, I will
That was 2004, just my experience.
In my opinion most people are not able to actually feel, hear the essence of music quick enough. So what happens is that those people constantly are fooled by surfacial factors in music. Be it fat basslines, funky grooves, good production, weirdo sounds. Whatever they are able to understand quickly and doesn't demand a lot of effort to understand.
Then after a while they start to realize, that those basslines, weirdo sounds, productions etc. are the same in most songs and they start to get bored. But instead to realize, that some songs only boast themselves with surfacial factors and other songs actually really have an essence (which they are unable to see) they simply blame the "style"..
Then they say the style is dead or is always the same, and move on, for example go from full on to dark. From then on they let them self fool again from new surfacial factors within that style. They still don't realize what actually makes a good song, they still don't realize what is essence and what is not, but they are convinced, that this genre now really is the best and better than the last... till after a while, they see through it as well, they realize that most songs are the same and play the same games and they move on to a new style.. and so on...
The trick is, not to limit ones taste to a style, but to musical ESSENCE! Everybody knows, that there are songs, which will always work for us, no matter in which "style-phase" they came to us. Those songs are the songs with essence, the songs that will never die and will never be old.
But to focus on essence one has to be able to see that essence in music quickly enough. One needs to have the intelligence to see through the surfacial attractions of songs and to see which songs will actually still work in 10 years and which are just dayflies.
Once we are able to do that, we realize, that in any style there is about 10% of songs with essence and no style ever dies and no new style ever has more essence than any earlier style. its just 10% of all music which really has essence. the rest has other priorities.
If someone is not looking for essence, this may not apply. But I believe deep in our hearts and souls all of us actually are looking for essence in life, love, music, everything.
Ups.. some excurse... Just had to write down these thought for once 
Most of my music for you to download at:
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makus
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Posted : Mar 5, 2009 14:37
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gutter
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Posted : Mar 5, 2009 15:06
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music is companion, it has life on its own and interacts with our feelings.. so many feelings that music cannot stuck to one, this is punishment, at least in trance music and parties/fests where you follow the flow, it will get tiresome plus will "suck" that feeling it gives you at the same moment, for example i cannot(and dont want to) have the elevating state all the time, or being in totally blur and fog and dark.. there are many passages on the go
nice words Raphael, keep your inspiration, these distributors are probably the same freaks, theyre just enterprising freaks thats all ;-)
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Ascension
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Posted : Mar 5, 2009 22:14
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If you're not writing music based on your emotions, then what are you doing?
I asked Robert Rich what the best way was to keep creating original material and he said to just write music that is true to yourself, and it will be unique. So true.
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Kane
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Posted : Mar 6, 2009 00:44
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On 2009-03-05 22:14, Ascension wrote:
If you're not writing music based on your emotions, then what are you doing?
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Importing something popular and getting as close as possible.
You believe in the users?
Yeah, sure. If I don't have a user, then who wrote me? |
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