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Is it important to a producer to know how to mix!!??

ganjagil
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Posted : Jan 24, 2006 23:51
I think that it is important to have dj skills as well because then you can play live and dj and can give a great trip to the people like play what you like and treat dj'ing as much as production because you can really do great mixes if you take it professionally!

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Posted : Jan 25, 2006 07:16
i wanna play my music in parties.. so i learned how to mix and dj.

some guide i used..



aint producer HEAR what is good mix?

aint it the same coin from two sides?

aint mixing sometimes part of produce?

aint the beat flow in producer blood?

aint those skills learn with time?

aint mixing/djing gonna help me develope my projects?

how much i realy want it?

is good cdj's very expensive?

do i want to buy them?


so i got me (5500 NIS - new pioneer100 + second hand mixer) the eqipment and poof

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etnarama
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Posted : Jan 25, 2006 14:19
????????????

Good dj's are rare in psy....... this is the genre of crossfades and play and stop, unbelievable when everyone plays with cdj's, cdj's are freaking easy, give them some teknicks and laugh.......
a good DJ i saw, doing a wicked DJ set... DINO PSARAS, very technical.
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e-motion
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Posted : Jan 28, 2006 02:28
dino psaras and tsuyoshi suzuki are the gods of psy djing
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Posted : Jan 28, 2006 02:32
Etnarama, i agree on that, haven't seen many psy djs looping next track, which is quite common thing to do.
Although everything have a price, more money involved in scene, better djs we have.
As psytrance listener i'm not that sure the crowd seeks for top notch dj skills.
etnarama
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Posted : Jan 28, 2006 03:03
Of course the crowd don't look for top notch djs, (they listen to what makes them dance, and its much better when you put two tracks together and make something new)its funny this, but the other day i was speaking with a mate, and i said that sometimes we dj for dj's cause nobody is actually listening......
but i honestly hate the crossfade guys..... and e-motion, tsuyoshi does loads of crossfades, at least the sets i listened to.
I came from a Techno background so Thank God i always mix beat matching.... i never never never never do crossfade.... and i play aggressive shite, in my opinion its harder to mix fast music than slower music......
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Methodic Marble
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Posted : Jan 28, 2006 17:20
well for m the though that i already had is that , it´s important for a producer to know how 2 mix , very many diferent reasons....
it´s knows how 2 flow...
know´s what is good to the dance floor...
and etc etc etc......
not essencial but IMPORTANT
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Posted : Jan 28, 2006 19:19

I think any good producer has a sense of rythm. If you have a sense of rythm, it is quite easy to learn the technical aspects of mixing so I see no reason not to learn it.

Also DJing teaches alot about what does and doesn't work on the dancefloor. It teaches you about the flow of a set and such things. So if you are a serious producer you don't really have any excuse not to learn to DJ.

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Posted : Jan 28, 2006 23:39
Quote:

On 2006-01-21 03:39, Methodic Marble wrote:
Is it important to a producer to know how to work with cdj´s and have the basic skil´s of mixing??

what do U think guy´s, is it?



no, it is not essential, but it can help. i was djing for three years before starting mangling in cubase, and i think it helps me a lot when making arrangements. when you dj, you can read the crowds, and see what kind of track is received well and why, and why some other track isn't. the flow is the key here, as someone alrealy stated. beatmatching skill is not needed for the producer, even for some djs           http://myspace.com/voxproject
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Posted : Jan 30, 2006 21:44
I don't think it's going to hurt learning to DJ, but is it really important? Well, I guess that depends on what you want to accomplish. I don't think it is an essential for a producer, but I think it can help. If your aim is to play Live PA, or just produce tracks then I don't think it's really worth the time & effort (unless your bored & are looking for something new to do). You don't need to be a DJ to read a crowd.

Having spun different styles, I have to say that I rarely see a psy-trance DJ who I feel has good DJing skills, let alone excellent ones. I find that the crowds tend to be more forgiving in the psytrance scenes here, and the DJ's to be less inspirational in the technical regard. I feel most psy-trance DJ's let the tracks do most of the work, and aren't as inclined to 'make it their own', but beat mixing, throwing cuts, loops, samples, EQ shifts, etc, etc.

I have to say that of all genres, psy-trance requires knowing your tracks more intimately to pull off something special. The arrangement, sounds used, and overall structure of psy-trance music makes it significantly more difficult to blend songs together for more than 45 seconds. This was a bit frustrating when I first started spinning psy-trance, as I was accustomed to mixing two tracks for 2-4 minutes with progressive house, sometimes even longer! Two spytrance tracks perfectly beat-matched takes more work to blend successfully, IMO, and I honestly think that many psy DJ's are intimiated by this, and don't do the work needed to perfect it.

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